Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 07:23 PM
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Gulo
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I'm not far from you Grandpa. Populations here seem to vary tremendously from year to year. About 6 years ago, we had tracks everywhere of both short-tails (ermine) and long-tails. I generally get 3-4 of them (long-tails) every year as incidentals in my marten boxes, so I decided I'd try specifically for them. Built 30 rat-trap boxes and set 'em out for nearly a month. Tried every bait imaginable, and tried all the recommended lures. Had tracks of weasels going right by and around the boxes, so they weren't afraid of them, but getting them to go in was nearly impossible. I've talked to a couple other mountain west trappers (Idaho) that had the same experience as I did. Finally caught a single male short-tailed weasel, pulled all the traps and haven't tried 'em since. Tell me your secret, man! Jack
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 07:57 PM
01/04/21 07:57 PM
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Gulo, when I trapped in the East just about all the ones that came up to the boxes went in them. Missed a few inside the boxes, though. I hope these western weasels don’t have a different mindset. I am going to place the boxes out again later this week. I use bloody beef liver for bait in back of the box on a nail. I have used chicken liver back East but there is some question if domestic chicken is legal here. I teach trapper education and received different answers from the authorities. I place weasel lure back in the box and smear the front entrance around the edge of the hole with muskrat gland lure. My weasel catches went up slightly when I started using the muskrat gland lure. I then place Hellfire lure a foot or two above the trap. If the trap is inside a culvert or pipe, I place the Hellfire on the top lip of it. If I catch a mouse, it stays in the box next to the liver bait. Maybe overkill, but it seemed to work for me. Hopefully, it does again. As I said, I am seeing very few weasel tracks and where I live, I have limited locations to set the boxes.
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 08:39 PM
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Gulo
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Yeah Grandpa. I tried beaver chunks and livers, I tried muskrat, I tried about everything. Even bought some weasel gland lure, and tried anal sac lure from weasels I caught in marten sets. I even tried switching out the rat traps for footholds. Tried taking the fronts off the boxes. Had tracks at or near 50% of the boxes while they were set. Was confounded nearly every time. Wife walked over a checked a box one time, lifted the lid, and there was a weasel in the box staring up at her. Trap, with big yellow pan, was still set. Go figure. We did catch quite a few deer mice. I'd sure like to figure it out. Keep me appraised of your success or lack thereof. Currently, I'm of the opinion that these western weasels are indeed of a different ilk than the upper midwest ones.
Jack
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 08:45 PM
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Way to go Grandpa Trapper!
Gulo, those boxes look deadly for weasel!
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 08:51 PM
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Gulo
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Thanks JP. Wife and I had over 300 trapnights and caught 1 short-tailed weasel. The boxes might look good, but I was disappointed. Like I said earlier, we get a few (long-tails) every year in our 120 Conibear boxes set for marten, but they apparently don't like the weasel boxes. Caught lots of short-tails in Alaska in our marten sets.
signed...
Weasel-less in Idaho
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:32 PM
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I am very interested in these creatures...are they destructive to human habitat, or do they mainly stick to the brush? We don't have them here, they seem like little bad(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)es!
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:35 PM
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Caught a long tail. Never caught a short tail. How can you tell a short tail weasel track from a long tail weasel track? Size? Sometimes the long tails don’t leave tracks. They wrap their tail around branches and swing from tree to tree like a chimp! Use bananas for bait. But really, the way to tell the difference is the size of track and distance between them. Sometimes the long tail does actually leave a bit of a tail track...not kidding.
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:37 PM
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Caught a long tail. Never caught a short tail. How can you tell a short tail weasel track from a long tail weasel track? Size? Sometimes the long tails don’t leave tracks. They wrap their tail around branches and swing from tree to tree like a chimp! Use bananas for bait. But really, the way to tell the difference is the size of track and distance between them. Sometimes the long tail does actually leave a bit of a tail track...not kidding. I remember seeing the tail in a track or two.
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:41 PM
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Pictures are deceiving but that looks like a short tail to me. A long tail around here is the size of a small mink. I don’t think a snap trap would work real good on a long tail.
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:48 PM
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I am very interested in these creatures...are they destructive to human habitat, or do they mainly stick to the brush? We don't have them here, they seem like little bad(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)es! Voracious eaters with a very high metabolism. Miniature bloodthirsty killing machines. Supposedly eats up to 1/2 of its body weight in a day. I don’t think they are destructive to habitat other than getting into farmers chicken pens
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:48 PM
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I used to catch more short tails then marten in my marten boxes. I always used an open front box with a #1 longspring. A piece of muskrat or beaver and gusto lure 3 to 4 feet off the ground. I only ever caught 1 long tail and I caught it in a bobcat set in a #3 long spring. Up here they should all be white by now. Yukon John. Once in a while they will take a young chicken or rabbit but other then that I have never experienced any problem with them. I didn't mind catching them as I usually caught enough to pay for my gas.
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Re: Caught my first Idaho weasel
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01/04/21 09:51 PM
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I am very interested in these creatures...are they destructive to human habitat, or do they mainly stick to the brush? We don't have them here, they seem like little bad(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)es! Voracious eaters with a very high metabolism. Miniature bloodthirsty killing machines. Supposedly eats up to 1/2 of its body weight in a day. So do I, lol! Thanks Sundance, and Grandpa!
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