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Re: american made traps [Re: scalloper] #7180143
02/13/21 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scalloper
What about MB's? Are they made in the US?


According to their website, they try to source American made materials as much as possible but do use imported materials from time to time. I think that qualifies them for "Assembled in America".

Re: american made traps [Re: turkn8rtrapper] #7180162
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Originally Posted by turkn8rtrapper
NO B S is Made in America


Assembled in US

Re: american made traps [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7180166
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I reckon if you use the logic that everything has to originate in the USA for a product to be said to be Made In USA, then even though I've not said they are American made, I should probably put a disclaimer on some of my lures that they're not American made. I formulated and produced them out in my shed, but a few ingredients in the lures are imported from other countries. I think this stuff gets to be a bit ridiculous.


You're right Paul, it does get a bit ridiculous. In the end, if folks are honest, people would have no problem buying their product regardless of where it was assembled or made.

Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180167
02/13/21 10:01 AM
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How American do you need your American steel to be? Steel is the most recycled material on the planet...

The days of loading American-produced raw materials into a blast furnace in IN, OH, or PA and getting American made iron/steel are basically gone.

Now they fill an electric arc furnace with scrap steel that comes from anywhere/everywhere, melt it down, and produce "American-made" steel... The scrap may have originated at the big CMC yard in Tulsa... Or it may be a barge load from China... And all of that scrap is comprised of steel from anywhere/everywhere... Cars, structural, etc...

You really can't tell anymore.

Mike


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Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180192
02/13/21 10:23 AM
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I don't know where the steel came from to make the KB trap, the chain was imported. I ran whatever machine Kurt needed the parts to put them together. The swivels were purchased, the rest was bent ,cut,welded and assembled in The USA

Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180239
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My belief is we need to support all the suppliers who support the trapping industry. All American made would be nice but this day and age there is not that many people that want to work that hard. You can make more money at home on unemployment. We can have a debate on what is American made and what is American assembled and everyone will have their own opinion based on who they have done business with and who they may be close with. I support a couple brands and will not support a couple brands but I will not make a spectacle on this forum about it because I am doing it for reasons I choose and there is no reason to drive the bus over the brands I do not support. Whether I choose to do business with your brand or not I do recognize that all these businesses are supporting the fur trade.

Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180255
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I've been selling steel for many years. Most pipe and square tubing is ink roll stamped with country of origin. Most plate sheet and flat bar is not. A lot of channel and angle is roll stamped and comes from Canada. One of the largest producers of stainless steel is Tata Steel from India. I have used stainless square tubing made in Finland. A fair amount of Aluminum comes from Brazil with their ample supply of Bauxite. I remember the day when ALL steel came from U.S. Steel or the mills in Bethlehem PA.


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Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180331
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There were BIG steel mills in Gary Indiana, A HUGE mill in Silver Bay MN, Cleveland OH, Pittsburg PA, Weirton WV, just off the top of my head.


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Re: american made traps [Re: Flint Lock] #7180496
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Originally Posted by Flint Lock
Originally Posted by Scott__aR

Just say "Assembled in the good ol' USA" and you're good grin


Anyone know if there is a standard that determines whether a product can be labeled “Made is USA” vs “Assembled in USA”? I thought there was but not sure.


https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/12/made-in-the-usa.asp#citation-1

What Is "Made in the USA"?
"Made in the USA." It's a label that evokes patriotism, carries an unspoken promise of quality, and has a political undertone of job security for American workers. It's also more complex and harder to define than one might expect.


The official definition of a "Made in the USA" label as set forth by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) requires that a product advertised as "Made in the USA" be entirely or virtually entirely made in the United States.


The rules for a "Made in the USA" label on a product are very specific. And the details regarding exactly what that means are spelled out in a 40-page document titled "Complying with the Made in the USA Standard."

Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180568
02/13/21 03:08 PM
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Think it's getting harder and harder to get anything that's made in the u.s.a. ,
Was looking at different things at work the other news night.
When I started with the company over 20 years ago they tried to buy only american made
Product and now it's hard to find anything made in america that we use.

I know I can't say that about my lure and bait I make
I never knew that so many ingredients come from other countries
Pretty sure bottle's and lids are made every where but u.s.a.
Only thing for sure is the horses are montana made.
For as that goes where is glycerin made, I buy in gallons jugs?


Let me sugar coat this
Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7180569
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Harris traps are made in montana also.
Along with j.r. pederson alaskan #9


Let me sugar coat this
Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7181599
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Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7181633
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I can say my tools are American made. They are not until I make them.
Steel from a local foundry.
nuts and bolts
handles some domestic some imported.

wire cable where can you get domestic?


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Re: american made traps [Re: danny clifton] #7181869
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Danny,
The steel mill in Silver Bay, Mn that you are referring to is not a steel mill. It is a taconite plant that produces taconite pellets, from low grade iron ore, that are shipped by boat from there to mills on the lower great lakes. Basically the last steel mill in Mn was in Duluth and was shutdown around 1972. There are around 5 taconite plants operating in Mn and ship all pellets by boat to steel mills.
Gary J

Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7181899
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It's a global market. It get that. I try to support America, but understand some things come from other countries. I don't mind that. I just try to stay away from one country when ever possible.


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Re: american made traps [Re: banchee] #7181949
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Ok Gary J I stand corrected. I went there in the 80's to get grinding balls after it shutdown. Took them to a concrete plant in AL. It was a sorry sight to see that huge facility shut down and all the houses that were for sale in town because of it.


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Re: american made traps [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7182004
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I reckon if you use the logic that everything has to originate in the USA for a product to be said to be Made In USA, then even though I've not said they are American made, I should probably put a disclaimer on some of my lures that they're not American made. I formulated and produced them out in my shed, but a few ingredients in the lures are imported from other countries. I think this stuff gets to be a bit ridiculous.


I don't know if you're serious about putting a disclaimer or not but for me I don't think it's nessisary especially since you don't advertise made in America but even if you did i personally don't think it's nessisary. To me if a supplier/manufacturer makes a product that is a majority of things acquired and made/built out of American products and are assembled here or in your case formulated here they are doing about the best they can in this day in age and should be proud of their products.

This whole 100% made in America is nice, real nice but in most cases unattainable. But you saying this is a bit ridiculous is an understatement, it's a lot ridiculous.

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