Ok, thanks. I get so much valuable info from tMan.

Marshrat thanks for pointing out hunter nation. Without them this would’ve simply stalled out.

True that. I know nothing about that group, or why they took in an interest in Wi, but I might have to look into that group.

This is not the first lawsuit for them against the department. Remember when the department said volunteers couldn't teach hunter safety in person? Well, they sued the department. They later dropped the lawsuit when the department reversed course. https://www.tomahawkleader.com/2020...ounty-hunter-safety-course-cancellation/

Imagine how frustrated people will be if the state of Wi successfully wins it's attempt this week to get the appeals court to stop next weeks wolf hunt

The fact Wi is even trying to stop the hunt is surprising

I don't see it that way.

Get everything worked out and next Oct 10th have a wolf permit drawing.
If there are 2000 permits available half I'm told will be for preference point holders and the other half will be a general drawing.

Beav, come on up and hang out in wolf country for a little while and your tune might change

Oh I've hung out In wolf country and I have even been on the line when we caught a wolf.
I just don't see the difference In waiting till next Nov to do the deed. So you kill 20 wolves In 5 days what impact will that have on the environment? 3 wolves here 5 over here another 5 or 6 In the next zone. I guess you can see where I'm coming from. But I guess if you kill all bred females that might have some impact.

Totally agree.

Exactly.
Been obvious for thirty years. Hopefully one day We the People will change that.

Well they aren't trying to stop it totally just wanting to have It start on Nov 4th or so next fall. I don't know why this doesn't make sense to you guys.

Beav, it makes total sense to me. I believe the WI DNR is attempting to use delay tactics so there is no hunt this month. This is in hope that wolves will get relisted between now and November and then there'll be no hunt then either.

I’ll start by saying I’m not very familiar with the court system. And I don’t know how or if pending rulings can delay the start of a hunt. But it seems like the DNR could use delay tactics long enough that for all practical purposes, there might not be a season this month. They have filed with the Court of Appeals. That ruling won’t be known until Wednesday. If I understand things right, the DNR could then file a Petition for Review by the Supreme Court. It would amount to nothing more than burning time and eat away at the available timeline for a hunt this month.

Like I said though, I don’t know if pending rulings can delay the already announced start date.

Beav, it seems you've become negative since you turned 80.

Imagine the excitement of a Feb 27th full moon wolf hunt. Although the tags will probably be filled by then.

Negative?? I'm just looking at this whole thing with a common sense type attitude.
And I personally don't think the DNR is purposely trying to shoot down a wolf hunting and trapping season.

The way I understand it, this season's harvest will not affect next season's harvest. I am hoping for 200 this year and even more next year. During the meeting they indicated a 200 harvest would hold the numbers steady. I believe they need a large reduction in population, but the DNR is probably not thinking that way.

Imagine the scramble that will ensue Monday morning for those of us that successfully draw a tag!

Really, because I think your alone on that one. This isn't a special season, This is THE 2020 wolf hunt. It is only 7 days BECAUSE of the DNR. Look at who is in this lawsuit WITH the DNR. None of them ever want to see a wolf killed. I really can not see where you get your optimism.

I wonder where WTA stands on this

Beav, you are looking past the first benefit of the season. It generates revenue in the form of license sales to offset the cost of wolf conflict and depredation. More importantly, it starts the process of creating value in a resource. It's too bad the department refused to be ready in January and we could have used the season to drive down those conflicts and keep the population at a higher level. It's not like the department wasn't asked in December of 2019 to get the wolf committee ready in anticipation for the delisting. https://dnr.wi.gov/About/WCC/Documents/Minutes/2019/WOLF120719.pdf

I and others kept this thread going for over 30+ pages to document this decision and this moment in time. They burnt bridges that likely will never be repaired. All they had to do was step up and show the community they were ready to manage the resource in a responsible way and folks would have cleared a path for them to do it. Instead the department turned their back on their duty and the very sportsmen that wanted to increase the intrinsic value of wolves on the landscape.

If the department truly was in favor of managing a resource, they would have asked this simple question to their scientist. Do we know enough today to have a season today that would ensure the long term viability of the population. It never should have taken a court order to get them to answer that simple question. Their refusal to manage a resource only ensures they lose control in the decision making process going forward.