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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Dirt] #7244328
04/15/21 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
If fha had told trappers how cheap they sold their fur for in December,how many would have been motivated to ship fur in Janurary?


I was able to find out prices on my PT sales and it motivated me to find another market before the March pickup. That said, I hope they do well on this sale.

Last edited by walleye101; 04/15/21 07:45 PM.
Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244447
04/15/21 09:54 PM
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How did u find out those walleyed?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244451
04/15/21 09:59 PM
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You can call.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244725
04/16/21 11:09 AM
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Is the FHA on-line auction going on right now? Does it have sort of an eBay-eques style where the potential buyers can see if there are bids on lots already and what the value of those bids are? Or I'm confused on what FHA leadership decided/got forced on doing...?


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244736
04/16/21 11:19 AM
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Bidding in the FHA on line auction is happening right now. Bidders can see what lots have been bid on and what the high bid is. Bidders are identified by number.

The auction is ending on a staggered basis. Bids start closing on the 17th at 7 AM eastern time. The auction ends on the 20th about 7 PM eastern time.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7244740
04/16/21 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Bidding in the FHA on line auction is happening right now. Bidders can see what lots have been bid on and what the high bid is. Bidders are identified by number.

The auction is ending on a staggered basis. Bids start closing on the 17th at 7 AM eastern time. The auction ends on the 20th about 7 PM eastern time.


By way of comparison to prior online auctions, is activity about the same or increased if you can tell wissmiss.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244743
04/16/21 11:30 AM
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NonPCfed. Good luck getting a answer to your questions. I was a buyer for 30 years off and on with NAFA and a mink rancher for 10 years or so. FHA wanted me to Jump through more hoops then a circus dog just to get a account open. It’s their rules and their company so they make the rules. Next year i will be spending my small $8000.00 fur purchase with state fur Assoc auctions or buy direct from trappers unless things are run different with them next year. Not going to place 35% in escrow with FHA on fur I might or not buy and then ask them to give that money back at the end of auction. Any guess how long it would take to give me MY OWN 2500.00 back ? I bet a lot longer than me giving them the money. I think the chances of a huge train wreck this auction is going to be high. Like I said we buyers don’t have to buy from FHA auction but it sure would be nice it the rules were more buyer friendly. Plus Biden Just announced Today big sanctions on Russia. I hope auction goes well for them if not it will kill the fur industry for this year and for the next buying year too. MD

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244745
04/16/21 11:32 AM
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Overall, the bidding is more active than the on line sale in April of 2020.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7244772
04/16/21 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Overall, the bidding is more active than the on line sale in April of 2020.


Nancy,

Can you give us any insight on the bids
so far on muskrat lots, or is that info
being held back by FHA for the time
being until fur pickups are accomplished ?

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244797
04/16/21 01:23 PM
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I can see what the bidding is doing by following the catalog. I could give you my opinion on muskrat bidding, but I prefer not to. There is a reason.

The bidding catalog and prices are supposed to be confidential. Things like explaining how the sale works is general information. Prices being bid are confidential. If FHA feels that I am sharing confidential information, they can shut down my buyer account.

It is more important for me to have an open buyer account than sharing confidential information. Sorry.

Having said that, I think shippers that have muskrats on this sale will be happy. If the trend will continue to the July sale, I have no idea.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: jax7725] #7244851
04/16/21 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jax7725
How did u find out those walleyed?


I sent an email and asked if they could provide more specific information on what I had sold. I got a reply the very next day with a break down of what had sold and averages. HOWEVER, that was back in March. I certainly wouldn't expect a quick response now in the middle of the auction. At this point you may as well wait it out until accounts are updated.

And by the way, Walleye101 is not the "Groney Rocks" Walleyed. wink

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244906
04/16/21 04:55 PM
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Anybody know which day beaver are going to be given away?

BTW, I just noticed on the catalogue that my western cats are not being offered on this sale. frown


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244919
04/16/21 05:09 PM
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Beaver are closing Sunday about noon eastern time. That would be about 9 AM in western Oregon.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7244928
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Overall, the bidding is more active than the on line sale in April of 2020.


Thank you.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7244939
04/16/21 05:57 PM
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Thanks for the info Wissmiss,much appreciated.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7245059
04/16/21 08:55 PM
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I still dont understand how a "trapper-owned" auction company operates when so few of their shippers know what's going on.....and an auctuon is currently underway....selling these same shipper's fur.

Reading thru this thread and WissMiss, as a buyer, is the only one that seems to have any current info....wow.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7245065
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I just spoke with my FHA director today-he picked up 3 bags of fur for me.And we discussed the fur market,FHA and the upcoming auctions among other things.
I think it is good that Wissmiss as a buyer at the current auction is willing to share info with shippers from a buyers perspective.I have bought fur from the auction house for personal use and attended a few sales,and it is quite different from a buyers perspective.

Others on here have gotten answers to their queries with a phone call.

I have always attended the Annual general meetings at the convention and all the operations are open for questions and discussions while the membership is voting etc.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Boco] #7245066
04/16/21 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I just spoke with my FHA director today-he picked up 3 bags of fur for me.And we discussed the fur market,FHA and the upcoming auctions among other things.
I think it is good that Wissmiss as a buyer at the current auction is willing to share info with shippers from a buyers perspective.

Well, what did the director say about the market?


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7245074
04/16/21 09:07 PM
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Its turning around for some species.
That is no secret.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Boco] #7245081
04/16/21 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its turning around for some species.
That is no secret.


It is and has been at rock bottom and below production costs. It has no where else to go but away maybe. I guess time will tell but they have been saying it would take five years to come out of the 2014 dip and of course that was before COVID 19, NAFA going broke and everything else you could think of. Excuse my pessimism. LLL


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