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Re: Batteries Can't Do The Job Greenies Think [Re: Trapper7] #7267062
05/18/21 05:28 PM 05/18/21 05:28 PM
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Once the government realizes they can't push solar and wind enough to sell it Natural gas will be their dollar and all of us who use it will be digging deep to have it !

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Re: Batteries Can't Do The Job Greenies Think [Re: Trapper7] #7267068
05/18/21 05:32 PM 05/18/21 05:32 PM
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I think renewable energy is a snowball rolling down our hill. Going to happen somehow I predict.
Re: Batteries Can't Do The Job Greenies Think [Re: charles] #7267104
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Originally Posted by charles
I think renewable energy is a snowball rolling down our hill. Going to happen somehow I predict.

Just depends on how many more trillions they want to pizz away while it proves to be a failure. The fact remains that often the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow. Period.

Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Batteries Can't Do The Job Greenies Think [Re: Trapper7] #7267107
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I am all for living a sustainable lifestyle- that's why I harvest free range, organic, wild caught fur. whistle

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Re: Batteries Can't Do The Job Greenies Think [Re: Trapper7] #7267115
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As the world's population and energy dependence continue to grow, a renewable source could become a vital national interest. I liken it to our quest for the atomic bomb (Manhatten Project) during WWII. Either we would discover it first, or the Germans would destroy us with their discovery. Research brought victory to America. Cheap energy might be essential to our free enterprise in the US. Don't look at the problem with today's glasses. Think of our children's future. Can we afford the status quo? I doubt it.

I know we enjoy an abundance of oil and natural gas. Heck, we once had an abundance of cheap fur that sold for high prices, but the times they are a-changing. We can not bury our heads in the sand.
Re: Batteries Can't Do The Job Greenies Think [Re: maintenanceguy] #7267116
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
And to charge the batteries you still have to produce the electricity somehow - usually fossil fuels. So you burn the fuel to make the electricity, just like you normally would. You charge the battery with a charger that isn't 100% efficient so you loose a little of the electricity which has to be made up with more fossil fuel, you then use the electricity through a system that isn't 100% efficient. You've now used more fossil fuel than you used before. And... you have all the environmental problems with mining, storing, and disposing of the lithium metal.

I'm not at all anti-battery, anti-electric car, or anti-any-new-technology but I don't see how electric vehicles are better for the environment.

Now, nuclear I like. I carried a lot of firewood as a kid and nuclear beats the heck out of carrying firewood.


Here is where the electric is coming from.
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