A dog is a dog and should be treated as such as many know my dog zip one of the best dogs I have ever seen but I can't say she would not bite. Growing up I had one of the best beagles around people from all around hunted her one day a girl was walking down the road the dog just ran out and bites her on the leg.

What was your dog doing loose near a public road?? why did you not call the dog back when it ran to a stranger ??

James, you should look at the newer real research on the warrior gene. It does not make people more violent. It makes people able to make quick, accurate decisions. It helps with playing games like most card games. 33% of the population carries the warrior gene. Every president, except Harding, up through President Trump is descended from people who carried the gene including William the Conqueror, Rollo, Niall of the Nine Hostages, King John Lackland, Heremon and Heber. biden probably has the gene too. All current European monarchs have that ancestry. It's almost a prerequisite for leading in the Western World.

I would guess most Trapperman members have the gene too.

Keith

I didn't consult any authorities. My opinions are based on my experience.

That is a weakness in my reasoning: reliance on personal anecdote. I know that. But I don't care. I don't trust Rotts. Especially ones that are raised like human babies, like my brother and his wife do.

Jim

Beautiful looking dog, Scuba1

My best buddy

Beautiful dog scuba1. It is obvious from this thread and others that several on here don’t have very much understanding of our canine companions. They don’t understand some of the most basic instincts of dogs. They speak of “not trusting “ them when at the visceral level it is fear of them. I have had several people say to me “I don’t like dogs and they don’t like me”. Well DUH! Canines can sense fear very quickly in another mammal, it is part of their genetic hardwire. It is the owner/trainers responsibility to socialize these instincts to positive outcomes.
I wonder if they saw a 98 lb lion hound go from sitting at heel to full on attack mode, under restraint, back to sitting at heel then released from restraint and told to go say hello to the man all by voice commands? That man was a U.S.Customs agent. And I promise you that he still remembers that day and why he should ask if it’s OK to look in someone’s vehicle. Would they trust that dog? How about if that same dog took a little girl by the arm and pushed her back through the doggie door the girl crawled through when the dog was trying to get away from her all without leaving a mark on her? Would they trust him then? The answer is more than likely no and fear is the reason.

I will also agree that some dogs, just like horses, cattle, cats, and most of the higher mammals including people ARE NUTS. And rage syndrome in canines is a real thing. And remember the vicious attack C.Chavez the dog whisperer suffered was from a yellow LABRADOR RETRIEVER. Yep! Kill Them All. Good luck with that.

It is a sad story indeed. I do know from reading newspapers, court reportings, personal experience and factual stories from people I know it's mostly just a few dog breeds that make vicious attacks. A lab is also a large dog breed but is this the dog you hear about biting maiming and killing people, probably not. I know I know it's how you raise them, cite your cases yada yada. I say use your senses and be aware the of your surroundings and keep small children away for all dogs that aren't raised with them

I'm starting to wonder whether shelter dogs are worth the trouble. I've never seen one that wasn't messed up in some way, and neither has anyone I know. It's like buying a used car without test-driving it, and without an inspection.

I'm sure there are good "rescue dogs" (I hate that term) out there, but I've never seen one.

I agree Weatherby. I’ve never known a dog from a shelter or a pound but didn’t have some sort of mental/behavioral issues.

James said and

The Rottweiler breed was originally developed as a herding dog and were not bred to be mean or aggressive. This is documented fact, not an individual opinion. Certain individual breeders in modern times may have focused on more aggressive traits. I don't know if this is the case, and by his own admission, neither does James. Those would not be reputable breeders as they would be breeding dogs that do not meet the AKC Standard.

Temperament: The Rottweiler is basically a calm, confident and courageous dog with a selfassured aloofness that does not lend itself to immediate and indiscriminate friendships. A
Rottweiler is self-confident and responds quietly and with a wait-and-see attitude to influences in
his environment. He has an inherent desire to protect home and family, and is an intelligent dog
of extreme hardness and adaptability with a strong willingness to work, making him especially
suited as a companion, guardian and general all-purpose dog.
The behavior of the Rottweiler in the show ring should be controlled, willing and adaptable,
trained to submit to examination of mouth, testicles, etc. An aloof or reserved dog should not be
penalized, as this reflects the accepted character of the breed. An aggressive or belligerent
attitude towards other dogs should not be faulted.
A judge shall excuse from the ring any shy Rottweiler. A dog shall be judged fundamentally shy
if, refusing to stand for examination, it shrinks away from the judge. A dog that in the opinion of
the judge menaces or threatens him/her, or exhibits any sign that it may not be safely approached
or examined by the judge in the normal manner, shall be excused from the ring. A dog that in the
opinion of the judge attacks any person in the ring shall be disqualified

Yes it is!

Spot on EdP.

A similar thing happened with one of my current labs Leftlane. I was at a family camp for a summer vacation with extended family. About 8 o’clock one evening I heard a dog squeal then a child crying. I rushed out onto the front porch to see what was going on. My lab had bitten a five-year-old boy in the face.

I ordered the dog into my truck, told my wife I’d be back the next day and started the four hour trip home with the intent of burying that dog in our pet cemetery.

On the drive home I got a call from the kids dad, my nephew. They had put together what happened, there were two witnesses, my mom and a step-sister. The boy, who is used to roughhousing with their beagle, had leapt on my sleeping lab and apparently jumped on him hard enough to hurt him pretty bad. The dog reacted by biting the closest thing to him, the kids face.

The boys dad pleaded with me not to kill the dog. I agreed to at least postpone it until I was a lot less angry and had time to think about it rationally.

I didn’t kill the dog. I never took him back to that camp though even though everyone has asked me multiple times to do so.

That incident was clearly not the dogs fault, he was simply reacting to what he no doubt perceived as a painful attack from an unknown source.

You seem to leave out a very important thing in your statement there. Demographics. You average hood rat that wants to be seen as a tough guy and mean with no idea how to train a dog is unlikely to get himself a poodle or chihuahua and gannny from next door is not likely to have mastic as a lap warmer now is she. You just go right ahead and blame the breed when I say for the most part again its the peoples fault.