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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385639
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So anti-Trump Baldwin has shot more people then the NRA and Trump? Sad but ironic play for a guy that should of taken a NRA course.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385718
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How did he shoot a director?

Was the lady an actor?

Were they filming a scene where he shoots her?

Directors usually aren’t in the movie scenes acting. Why would he point the gun at him and pull the trigger?

After shooting one of them, how long till the other person got shot?

How can an actor shooting a scene be held responsible for his prop (gun) being live and deadly?


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385728
10/22/21 08:31 PM
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"How can an actor shooting a scene be held responsible for his prop (gun) being live and deadly?"

What are you supposed to do when you first lay a hand on a gun?

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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385734
10/22/21 08:37 PM
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I'm with James here. Even an idiot should have some training before picking up a gun.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385758
10/22/21 09:02 PM
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Sounds like it happened during the scene. The lady was a camera operator. My assumption is they were in the line of fire. Why was anyone in the line of fire and beyond it?

X3 James plus he should have known basic gun safety rules. He's used plenty of them.

This video of Will Smith went viral about a yr ago. From this video it looks like there's a meeting to review of guns for the movie.


Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385763
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I don’t even know what a blank looks like. Do the actors?

Actors are being told what to do by the movie directors and producers. They are clothed, fed, scripted, acting in character.
As far as I’m concerned, Alec Baldwin didn’t shoot them.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385765
10/22/21 09:12 PM
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According to court filings, the Assistant Director checked the gun and declared it safe

Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385766
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Someone definitely dropped the ball. Why would a live round ever make it into Hollywood fer cryin out loud? Buncha sissies they are about guns....


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Jurassic Park] #7385767
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
How did he shoot a director?

Was the lady an actor?

Were they filming a scene where he shoots her?

Directors usually aren’t in the movie scenes acting. Why would he point the gun at him and pull the trigger?

After shooting one of them, how long till the other person got shot?

How can an actor shooting a scene be held responsible for his prop (gun) being live and deadly?



Many times the director is next to or behind the Cinematographer when directing the scene. Sometimes the Cinematographer will film the scene in front of the action. Could be the bullet went through the woman and hit the director or if something else was in the chamber fragments of whatever it was hit him.

Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385770
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Well as you guys know
No such thing as an unloaded gun.
Never point a gun at anything your not gonna shoot, weather it be game or human, this alone would have saved her.

Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385773
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Yup. This was below elementary knowledge level.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385774
10/22/21 09:19 PM
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I heard the film was low, low budget and lots of people working the film were unhappy....no armorer on the set. Baldwin will walk and you or I would already be in jail...he is part of the elite.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385776
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Supposedly a few walked off the set not too long before this happened.


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: adam m] #7385778
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Originally Posted by adam m
State DA not sure if charges will be filed for him or anyone else yet.

If this was anyone else there would already be charges filed for at the very least 2 counts negligent use of a firearm. Nm politics is beyond corrupt so I see them all skating by.


Remind us how many counts of negigent us of a firearm did Cheney get charged?

Could it be that this was just a tragic accident or do we need to charge people for everything>

Could it be there is someone whose sole responsibility on the set is to see to it the gun is properly inspected and the correct type of prop rounds are used?

Alec Baldwin is a douche but in my opinion, if the evidence plays out something went amiss with the prop round it's a civil matter and the movie company is liable.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385780
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Baldwin should be charged and tried for being an all around ejit.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385786
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Since Hollyweird is so anti-gun why are they even attempting a western movie involving guns. They should be practicing gay love.


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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385793
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Have to disagree with you, partly, Steven. Baldwin should be held personally liable too for negligence.

He should no more of handled a gun without knowing the rules of gun safety than he should get behind the wheel without knowing the rules of traffic safety.

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Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385814
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I bet some of you have not noticed that in movies actors routinely point guns at each other and fire blanks....so, there goes the rules of safety normally followed. A qualified person would handle the firearms before they hand them to the actors so they would be verified safe...this movie was so low budget that job was not filled....


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Unless they can stick someone else with intentionally loading that gun with live rounds, I'll wager that Alec at least gets charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Re: Alec Baldwin shoots a woman with a prop gun [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7385841
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Baldwin ain't gonna get charged.


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