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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388085
10/25/21 08:19 PM
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No dog hunting derr here in WV, but I respect the tradition in other states. Boy how do I miss a lot of hunting traditions.
I have been on the giving end and receiving end of several shirt tail cuttings over the years.

I used to hunt with a large family that got together for every squirrel season opening day. The low man at the end of the day had to surrender their hat to be shot by the other hunters.

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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388098
10/25/21 08:32 PM
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I think the biggest problem would be keeping hounds off of property they are not wanted. If I had property in a state where it is legal I wouldn't want the hounds chasing deer on my land. If it happened regularly I'd be upset.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388118
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Did it for years when I was younger. Can be fun, and can be boring. Many times the deer is a mile ahead of the dogs and might pass you before you even hear the dogs.

Seams there are always trucks on the highway, a distant train, someone running a chainsaw, and the ever-present wind that makes it difficult. Many days the dogs can't be found at quitting time. It is also expensive to feed dogs all year long. Takes a lot of land too.

Legal in Eastern NC but not in the Western counties.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388137
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I’ve done it where I was the dog!!!!lol.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388140
10/25/21 09:08 PM
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If you ever hunted in the Florida think you would understand your not going to see a lot of deer crawling through palmetto, biggest thing its a traditional way of hunting in the south

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388145
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I was raise running dogs back where nobody cared if you hunted on their land. If you killed it on someone place you gave them a back strap who ever own the dog got a hindquarter. It was never asked for just what you did. I have own up to 30 dogs At a time mostly redbone they would run not fast but push the deer on out for about 45 mins and come back to where I turn them out at. My dogs run in pack of 5. We had a lot of land in hunting club and hunted public land too. Put everyone in their spot and turn out dogs till noon. Then we go eat lunch and still hunt the afternoon. You know what I have killed nice bucks on food plots I turn out 50 dogs on the morning before!

I really loved it.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: k9-hunter] #7388148
10/25/21 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by k9-hunter
deer will usually head for water with a hound on its heels, nothing beats hunting off a hound and back in the day when our grandfathers where young boys i bet every deer hunt consisted of at least one hound


Not true!


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388150
10/25/21 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.


Lol lots of stealth need to shoot deer with a gun 250 yards across a bean field . Make it sporting. No wepons allowed you did not make yourself and no hunting in a county you dont live in or own land in.
That would make it sporting an keep all the city people in the city. wink...

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388153
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson

I've read where there's hunters tripping over each other....and 4-wheelers tearing up the woods with disregard to others. I think I'll pass.

"I Heard" gets tossed around alot wink


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Providence Farm] #7388163
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Snipers have to use the wind to their advantage for one thing. And the deer hasn't been run to death when shot by a sniper.


Lol lots of stealth need to shoot deer with a gun 250 yards across a bean field . Make it sporting. No wepons allowed you did not make yourself and no hunting in a county you dont live in or own land in.
That would make it sporting an keep all the city people in the city. wink...



Fair enough.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: bucksnbears] #7388165
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Originally Posted by Gary Benson

I've read where there's hunters tripping over each other....and 4-wheelers tearing up the woods with disregard to others. I think I'll pass.

"I Heard" gets tossed around alot wink

I read. Not heard. Similar to customer ratings on Amazon? You savvy? Actual experiences by people who were actually there.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388169
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Obviously this a volatile topic. I got the answers I was looking for. Thank you for the common sense replies.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: bucksnbears] #7388171
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We have member bringing hounds to deer camp this year. We always had hounds at camp. Looking forward to hearing them run. old243

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388176
10/25/21 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Just read where it's legal in Florida on private land and maybe 11 other states. I'd think that deer would run for miles, the meat would be ruined, and how does a dog know where to stop?
I've read where there's hunters tripping over each other....and 4-wheelers tearing up the woods with disregard to others. I think I'll pass.


Its a cultural thing down here as far as I'm concerned. More like a hog scalding, where folks with similar interests get together and can rack up some much needed meat to get them through. They should openly make it legal in the counties that practice and support it in my opinion.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388180
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Hunting deer with dogs is a long standing southern tradition. Run dogs in the morning and still hunt the same areas in the afternoon. Plenty of deer taken either way. Yes it takes a fair amount of property but with good dogs you can get by with only a couple hundred acres. The last club I was in had just under 2000 acres. Split into several parcels anywhere from 200 to 600 or so acres in size. 3 generations of dogs ran that property. Older dogs teaching their pups. Dogs knew the property better than we did. They knew the property lines, usually a road or creek, and would rarely cross them. English Springer Spaniels were what we all had. They hunted close, just making the deer move. If they lost track of the drivers or crossed a stand line they would go back and find the drivers. Never ran for more than 15 or 20 minutes on any one deer without coming back. If we ever "lost" one during a drive it was usually waiting back at the turnout truck or if we were close to the camphouse it would be waiting on the porch. I don't think those dogs ever got turned around in the woods and didn't know exactly where they were at.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388189
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I've caught a couple dogs in traps that were a long ways from where they were supposed to be. And I was the bad guy, of course.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388190
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[i][/i]I also grew up running dogs. Back then, you could get free permits from timber company's with thousands of acres. This was before all the leasing started. It was a social event every Saturday in clay Co. AL. More time spent drinking coffee under the big oak where we all would meet than hunting. Those timber co woods had lots of logging roads. We made the same drives every Saturday and standing around talking about what to drive next was always fun. We would stand off two roads and the driver took the dogs in the woods and drive between them till they jumped.

Loved hearing the dogs run and wonder who they may run towards. We rarely shot the deer crossing the road because they would slip out and alots of times already be past the road when the dogs jumped. Then was trying to head off the dogs driving way too fast on those logging roads. Standers without a truck ( most of the trucks were parked except three or four) would jump in bed as we flew buy or sometimes stay in case they turn back. The shot would be when heading off the dogs. Usually the deer is seen 3 or 4 times before we knew it was a buck and that's when you may get a shot as the dogs are closer to the deer and better guess where the deer is. If they got close to private property, we would catch them if we could. If not we would wait 5hem out. There were a few different groups hunting the same area and that's where the drama came in. Lol.

People would catch each other's dogs if they were running a doe or close to private land. Get on the CB, let them know and someone came to get them or we went to get ours. The drama was the " I bet our dogs were running a buck and they caught them so we wouldn't get a shot", or if we ain't heard our dogs in a while it was " I bet somebody caught them and waiting till evening to tell us"....that kind of stuff. Their was one group that were " landowners hunting club". They owned land that joined the KC land and hunted both. They had a club house and dog pen and were bad about

catching your dogs and put them in their pen. They wouldn't announce it till dark so their pen was our first go to when we lost dogs. Dog hunting is not a very effective method. We would get 4 or 5 a season. I was ten years old the first time I was put on stand by myself. 11 years old I shot my first "solo" deer second weekend of season. My 44 caught a small 5 point. My dad had it mounted. Back then, we strapped deer our dog boxes and the shooter was done and stayed with the truck guarding their deer. I bet 100 hunters stopped and ask who shot it like always and wow what a feeling to say I did. That day comes back eveytime I look at the tiny 5 point hanging on the wall with my big bucks.

Think I was more proud of that little deer than all my others. That's all gone now and not much place for it these days. Our old stomping grounds are now subdivisions. Most of the older men including my dad are just memories themselves now. I still bowhunt a few of our old deer dog woods but there alot smaller now. Too bad folks today never got to experience those chases and all the guys I only saw on Saturday dureing gun season under that big oak tree.

For two months or so, every truck you seen had a dog box in the bed, an orange hat on the dash, and a rifle hanging in the back window. I miss it and I think it's a great form of hunting. But it not only requires a ton of land but also tolerant people. Not much of either these days.


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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388196
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Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Gary Benson] #7388201
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Lol lots of stealth need to shoot deer with a gun 250 yards across a bean field . Make it sporting. No wepons allowed you did not make yourself and no hunting in a county you dont live in or own land in.
That would make it sporting an keep all the city people in the city. wink...


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That would honestly be bad for me. My county is to populated. On the other hand maybe i would quit shooting the deer and lease it out if the prices got high enough. Ya right.

I think it boils down to what you grow up with in your area and what was seen as ok. I don't like the idea of telling others their way is wrong. In turn they may see my way as wrong. I prefer to embrace all legal methods and look forward to trying them out someday myself. At the end of the day all outdoors men need to come together. Our #'s are falling and we will all lose if we don't.

I think thats why its a hot button topic.

Example. Trapping is not fair, sporting, or animal friendly. And out numbers are the smallest I would guess. But those hound huntters sure don't like our K9 sets. Better ban trapping right? Hoynd huntters sure do out # us. Better come together insted of fight.

Re: Hunting deer with dogs [Re: Drifter] #7388221
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Originally Posted by Drifter
Legal here in Mississippi as well. Most around here use beagles. I think they use them to keep em moving.

Trapped the delta 4 about 8 years. Had more than a few dear dogs show up at the work site. They were usually tuckered out and friendly, and wearing blaze orange callers.

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