What is the information you got, and who is the big Midwest buyer you got it from?

This Is what I heard. There Isn't a buyer In the USA that has a order for any coyotes. And that groney will only buy the top end coyotes out of Canada and some western coyotes but at a reduced price.
There may be a rat market.

Go to Groneys web site, he has routs posted for 20 states and Canada?

Yep, c'mon Marty! What do you know? I know you know something!

Tell us how you really feel Jayme, lol.

ADC, you know as well as any one thats not how business is done, one has to create a market by only letting out tidbits during the build up.

The foundation has to be no one is buying that you heard about, don't matter if you heard anything, LOL
It's a start for a market.
Happens every year, no different this year.

I know I'm buying coyotes this year as a end user, but only those put up with all paws and prime well put up, not a lot like big buyers
however I am buying. I can't travel all over so I rely on previous people I've done business with as well. Yes it's time consuming to do the paws
I know I do it, and yes I will pay for it, if it's done right. I have a set price I ask for a picture to see color and pelt thats all, you like it or you don't, no worries, just find another buyer !
If I get sent junk then I don't use them again for anything, in this day and age it don't pay for either party to mess with each other !

Some of yall need to regroup...Clay dont put stuff out there just to start rumors...

And that tells us absolutely nothing Swamp Wolf!

"difficult and uncertain market conditions" - no kidding??? It's been that way for years.

Tells us it aint all just rumors...

I guess you'd need a direct line to a major buyer to know why this additional negativity is occurring. It isnt just GWFC that's putting the brakes on an already slow rolling fur market.

Dont kill the messenger because you dont like the message. Exact reasons why the additional buying slowdown is occurring is what we are trying to find out.

We all know its been bad....

Ask around ADC......heck you may find out more than is known here.
I, for one, don't know any facts, except that I heard GWFC has postponed routes....and that is true.

Thanks for the heads-up Clay!

You're dang near the only one on this post who did post any real information and then you're the one to take it personally. WTH?

I'll just delete the stuff.

The cost to run all these routes particularly gas prices makes its a money loser. About the only insite I have is a friend told me China basically quit buying Don’t know how accurate that is. Believe Covid may still be a big issue in China as well. Not to mention freight to China.

I hear the wimmen that meet in the church basement to quilt have been bickering alot lately.

I'm not in the industry anymore. Haven't been for 3-4 years.

I help out once in awhile if my schedule permits at Petska Fur & Antler.



The CNN style reporting by the op rubbed me the wrong way.


I get most of my news here at TNN.

This is a thread everyone needs to bookmark and re-visit in 8 weeks, When your running around screaming "nobody told me it was that bad"!

With shipping container shortages, truck driver shortages, pipelines on the chopping block again, and less demand, is it really a surprise to anyone?

Why is anyone surprised by this would be my question? I think you all need to go out and buy a thermal and go let off some steam.

I was told
3.50 in round and 5 put up for rats average
Marten is wanted and should pay best.
Cat market is still unpredictable
60 plus for good coyotes
From my small home area buyer

With $5 rats I could break even this year!!!!