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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7427754
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Originally Posted by Marty
How picky do I need to be cleaning off silverskin and small pieces of fat/tendon for canning? Does the canning process liquify most of that stuff?

You want a jar of crap,,or a nice jar of venison.I love canned venison,,but its ugly enough as it is done right. smile Get it as clean as you would if you weren't canning it,,,and youl be good.

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Re: canning venison ? [Re: yotetrapper30] #7428229
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
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We can most all our deer. I even have a small canner that fits 5 pints, perfect for a limit of squirrel or rabbit.

If you use bullion use cubes not the goo in the jars because the goo has thickener which is a canning no-no. I like one cube per pint, two per quart.

I prefer hot pack so i just add the bullion to my hot water that I use to top off the jars, and I also add 1/2 teaspoon salt per pint directly into the jar.

Always always heat canned goods before even tasting. This goes for commercial canned goods also. More botulism poisoning happens from bad store bought goods than home canned, but that is only because there are so many more store bought canned goods eaten. And heating to 185 degrees for 5 minutes destroys botulism toxin. All canned goods, home or store bought, should be simmered no less than 5 minutes before eating. In every case of botulism poisoning this step is skipped. And botulism is one of the most potent poisons known, I recently found information that one gram is enough to kill 250,000 people. Don’t even taste canned goods without cooking first. I mean yes its more dangerous to go for a drive in a car than to eat a commercial canned good without heating, but its so easy in most cases to cook first that i would only eat uncooked if i had no way to cook it.

Here in the lower elevations, 10 psi for 75 minutes is the standard for meat. Higher elevations require different pressure.

Lots of instructions out there on canning, be sure to understand what you are doing before you start.



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Im just a vanilla, follow-the-rules kind of canner, its true. I have no doubt the “rules” can be broken safely, but for my purposes of just canning some meat and beans I see no need. The USDA has it dumbed down just for people like me. Others take it to an art form.


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7428798
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I can a lot of venison. Everyone here loves in in a ton of different ways, Venison vegetable soup, French dip sandwiches and venison salad sandwiches are big sellers. Never get real crazy about the silver skin removal but as said, remove as much fat as you can. I only add 1/2 tea spoon of salt per pint and 1 tea spoon per qt. That way its more versatile. You can always add flavor but you cant take it out.

I'm also a stickler for the rules when canning. Get a Ball canning book and follow the directions. You have to know your approximate elevation to adjust pressure, it tells you all about it in the book.

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Par boil for 15min, one bullion cube per quart. I don't discard the liquid I use it to make a gravy . I use it for hot deer sandwiches, mashed potatoes two slices of bread topped of with the hot deer and gravy.

Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7428858
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We wash the jars jars and rings good then pack the meat in cold and raw. Quart jars. Add one teaspoon of salt. Fill with water to the bottom of the neck. Use a butter knife to get out any air bubbles. Maybe add another chunk or two. We process at 18 pounds for 90 minutes. Thats it. Simple and good.


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: danny clifton] #7428875
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
We wash the jars jars and rings good then pack the meat in cold and raw. Quart jars. Add one teaspoon of salt. Fill with water to the bottom of the neck. Use a butter knife to get out any air bubbles. Maybe add another chunk or two. We process at 18 pounds for 90 minutes. Thats it. Simple and good.

This surprises me a little. I was always told to add water only if you pre-cook the meat. If cold packed raw, it makes its own juices. Do you suppose the extra boils out the lid during the cook? Seems like it has to go somewhere ? I have only cold packed without adding water and my liquid level is always near the top.

Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7428892
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never heard of canning meat or fish without water


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7428922
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Raw packed nearly every kind of meat never added water. Always came out great...just how I was taught.

Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7428932
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Bear is my favorite canned, little onion and little (1/4 tsp)canning salt top and bottom, I don't leave much head space as it cooks down. Ten pounds 90 min.
Usually dump quart jar of bear in pan get meat hot ..slotted spoon remove meat make gravy out of the liquid ..put bear meat on rice or potatoes gravy on top sometimes sprinkle with garlic powder...eat till I'm stuffed.

Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7429100
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never added water either. but a tablespoon of Montreal steak seasoning and a tablespoon of garlic changes everything!


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7429127
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Canned salmon , chicken , beef burger , venison , and vegetables without water .
Only one that I would do different is chicken or any fowl , remove the bones first .

Maybe just me , but the bones on fowl break down and are a pain to remove the grit they cause .
The ends of the bones just get too soft and break apart , same with the rib bones on leg quarters in the thighs .
Best chicken stock ever , but the bones in my case are a pain .
The meat is excellent .
To each their own , I may have had too much pressure and let it process too long .


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7429145
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I've canned lots of caribou and moose, cold packed pints with no added salt or liquid. I do trim fat, but not silver skin. I love the lower leg meat. The connective tissue gets gelatinous and I like it. Often pop off a lid and just eat it straight from the jar

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going to do some today if things work out right ,10pounds for 90 min ,is what I have always done

Re: canning venison ? [Re: midlander] #7429394
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by danny clifton
We wash the jars jars and rings good then pack the meat in cold and raw. Quart jars. Add one teaspoon of salt. Fill with water to the bottom of the neck. Use a butter knife to get out any air bubbles. Maybe add another chunk or two. We process at 18 pounds for 90 minutes. Thats it. Simple and good.

This surprises me a little. I was always told to add water only if you pre-cook the meat. If cold packed raw, it makes its own juices. Do you suppose the extra boils out the lid during the cook? Seems like it has to go somewhere ? I have only cold packed without adding water and my liquid level is always near the top.


Cold pack, some salt, no adding water for me. The process makes its own juice.


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7429420
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
going to do some today if things work out right ,10pounds for 90 min ,is what I have always done


That’s for quarts at 1000 feet above sea level or less. Pints are 75 minutes at 10 pounds 1000 feet. 1001 feet to 2000 feet time stays the same but pressure goes to 11 pounds.

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All good info, thanks folks. smile


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7429534
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No water for me either, just the way I've always done it
Some jars with just salt. Some we doctored up with everything but the kitchen sink kind of an instant stew
I'm partial to mushrooms,garlic,salt and carrots in mine


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Re: canning venison ? [Re: Marty] #7429570
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I’ve done with and without broth added. I always add broth now, much better that way IMO.

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Originally Posted by Trapset
Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
going to do some today if things work out right ,10pounds for 90 min ,is what I have always done


That’s for quarts at 1000 feet above sea level or less. Pints are 75 minutes at 10 pounds 1000 feet. 1001 feet to 2000 feet time stays the same but pressure goes to 11 pounds.


Agree, my pressure cooker instructions call for the same procedure. I use pint jars and I process at 10 pounds pressure for 75 minutes.

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If you don’t adjust for your altitude, your pressure canner does not get the temperature to the recommended level. Water boils at higher temps the higher you are so the pressure needs to be adjusted.

Most canning books have a chart for pressure/altitude. Some even list many larger city altitudes.
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