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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494549
02/13/22 10:16 AM
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The big bucks simply go to and stay in areas where nobody has ever bothered them for years.They are smart and stay hidden.


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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494559
02/13/22 10:23 AM
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I did one year, hunted a specific buck everyday I could hunt for the entire season, saw him twice out of range during bow season, didn't see him at all during muzzleloader or rifle season. The day after the season closed we were quail hunting on that tract of land, he stood up at about 30 yards and looked at me for what seemed like ten minutes before wandering off, it was like he had a copy of the hunting guide and could read it and knew I was an ethical hunter. But I did enjoy the chase that year and saw a lot of deer really close but let them walk.

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494562
02/13/22 10:25 AM
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There’s a lot to unpack in your question:
Our #1 rule: is Big Bucks prefer solitude over almost everything else, if you understand and respect that you will increase your chances for your described target buck. What does that mean:
2) Hunt for the outside in: opening weekend of bow until October 1st hunt the edges of those bean field you described and be cognizant of the wind, most likely that big buck will step out after shooting light but you will start to pattern his behavior.
3) October 1st to Halloween we hunt staging areas that are on travel corridors leading to food sources.
4) Halloween to November 12th is typically the seeking phase leading into chasing. Best time to be in the woods hunting scrape lines outside of doe bedding areas.
5) The Peak Rut – all bets are off an exciting time to be in the woods but predictability has passed. For me it’s like fishing Muskies on a clear day in clear water- you get follow-ups but harder to connect.
6) Anytime you put boots on the ground to hang a stand, hang cameras, make scrapes, put out minerals you violated Rule #1. There are too many flavors of the day on the internet that motivate hunters to try something new. The majority of our work in the woods is done now.
7) Bucks aren’t busted if they’re allowed to utilize their normal escape routes- they relocate from danger every day, I prefer ATV’s if we go in to trim trails – announcing my arrival and allowing bucks to execute their escape plan.
8) You see it a lot on here and I get a lot of world class nocturnal whitetail pics from friends- I always ask- show me a daylight pic of that same buck – is your property his home range?
9) Overhunting a stand- the majority (not all) of our P&Y bucks have been shot the first night in the stand- if you overhunt one area you may not think so but he knows you’re there.
10) If you talk to hunters that don’t shoot world class whitetails- don’t solicit their advice. Their goals are different than yours (not wrong… just different)
So… there’s luck and there’s planning here’s an example: I saw this buck on September bow opener and I saw him again from stand on November 2nd and November 3rd same travel corridor but different stands my son shot him on November 4th from the 3rd stand location and he did not pass by the stand I was in that night on November 2nd. Good Luck!
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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494565
02/13/22 10:28 AM
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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494616
02/13/22 11:01 AM
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Opening weekend of Bow season Is a top time of the year to kill a big buck. Then It's the Rut. Then It's the dead of winter when It's all about food.
The 160 class 8 pointer I shot never showed up on my property till Dec. The trail cams told me so.
No matter what time of the year you hunt your success all depends on the WIND. If the winds not In my favor I stay home. Or hunt a different property where the wind favors my set up.


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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494685
02/13/22 11:51 AM
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I try to target specific buck every year I will kill a good one if he just passes buy but I like to know what deer are in the area and hunt the best one there. Luck plays a big part, but getting the right spot at the right time takes patience and scouting. Right now you could learn where he is bedding and find his trails to and from the bedding to food. If you don't bump him in season and don't get bust by hunting the wrong wind, there is a good chance you will get a shoot at him. I run around 15 trail cams on public land and pattern the best bucks I can find and 85% of the time I get a shot at that buck or at least get to see him in person. Scouting is the key to knowing where he will be come October and November.

Re: Deer hunters [Re: The Beav] #7494699
02/13/22 12:02 PM
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Beaver nailed it,archery bachlor groups early on food,rut does get more big bucks killed a lot during the middle of the day then late in the season after the rut a winter food source.Always hunt the wind it's risky but if you know his bedroom you can hunt close to it without letting him know he's being hunted,4.5 and older bucks are not dumb,but during the rut they are more apt to make some dumb things,good luck.Just about every year I have a target buck to hunt for,lots of hunting pressure around here so I'm successful maybe 30 to 40% on getting the buck I'm hunting for,good luck.

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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494743
02/13/22 12:34 PM
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Yes Sir, from your replies , I think your on it and just gotta pay attention to detail. Eagle eye and Beav nailed it, great advice. I always try to target mature bucks. I’m not hung up on score, but the challenge of chasing a 5+ year old wise whitetail. Our archery season opens early Sept. the bucks have normally just shed velvet and bachelor groups are starting to break up. This is a food pattern, play your wind carefully and you can kill one. Mostly over natural food rather than a corn pile- in my experience. Clover, standing beans, corn field edges. I’ve been successful on 3 bucks from sept 6-12. October- forget it. Tough hunting until after Halloween. You can mess up more than you can gain. (Again - my opinion.) Nov 6-18, get in the stand. Veterans Day has been good to me. I’ve arrowed more wallhangers in this nov window than any other time combined. Late season food source works for some, but not for me. If I haven’t killed my target by end of Nov, I normally switch gears to doe harvest to fill the freezer- in other areas. Game cameras can be great help. High barometric pressure, strong weather fronts trigger movement. That mature buck might only slip up and give opportunity 2-4 times per season, gotta hunt smart and pay attention to detail. Scent spray might help, but I prefer to play the wind. If it’s not right, don’t hunt that stand. Their nose is incredible. Good luck and have fun!

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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494747
02/13/22 12:40 PM
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This years archery buck. Nov 13

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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494795
02/13/22 01:06 PM
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Here’s a 158” buck from two years ago [Linked Image]
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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494804
02/13/22 01:14 PM
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I never had the opportunity to spend a season chasing one, or any deer, at camp, First legal one shows up gets it, repeat till your out of tags...really don't care to only settle on a trophy..That said, the deer that live around the house here are very vulnerable in sept to very early oct.
Once acorns are dropping they shift to other patterns., There is only bowhunting around me and tight areas with a lot of housing, once the season starts the big bucks go nocturnal almost instantly...right before the rut though the boys get itchy and you can get a crack at some, but mostly the lower class bucks...
Automobiles have better luck running into them at night.... cool

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494808
02/13/22 01:17 PM
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I am a meat hunter but will shoot a lifetime buck. I pass on bucks so the kids and guests might take them. I am 75 now, so most of the thrill has already been experienced. I do enjoying hunting. I read books on my IPad in the box stands, and look up when I complete a page. Very relaxing and I keep my freezer full of burger and loin.

Meals at the club house are fun as well.

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494818
02/13/22 01:23 PM
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My biggest buck.Netted 180 inches
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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494821
02/13/22 01:24 PM
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I started targeting mature bucks only about 7 years ago and have been very blessed to take some really nice ones. The past two seasons I've killed the two bucks I was targeting but may not happen again for awhile, I realize I have been lucky to do so. Seems to me that staying out of his area until the conditions and wind are right helps more than anything. And we never go in the bedding areas until shed season. Shed hunting is another great tool to figuring out where they bed and the trails they use. And right now is a great time to get out there and find them. With the trail cams out today it has no doubt made it easier to pattern deer without stinking up the area. Good Luck and hopefully we'll get to see some pics next year

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494828
02/13/22 01:29 PM
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This buck is from this past season in Ohio and I had 3 years of photos and a shed from him [Linked Image]
And this buck is from last year in Tennessee and I found his sheds the season prior and set numerous cams out to pattern him. Had one pic of him Oct 26th in daylight and killed him Nov 7th [Linked Image]

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Bruce T] #7494833
02/13/22 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
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Holy cow! It looks like those deer get pretty heavy up there?
Nice buck!


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Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494849
02/13/22 01:46 PM
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Those Maine deer do get big,a friend of mine shot a 182" buck about 15 years ago within 3 miles of here that dressed out at 258lbs.Our biggest for Willow Creek Hunt Club was 253lbs last year was the 79th year for WCHC.

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494850
02/13/22 01:47 PM
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Great bucks Rick, Bruce, RM. Good info on this thread.

Geography also plays a role. Mountain bucks vs flatland Agriculture bucks vs big bodied northern bucks vs south Texas bucks. Common denominator - their keen nose

Re: Deer hunters [Re: RM trapper] #7494862
02/13/22 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RM trapper
I started targeting mature bucks only about 7 years ago and have been very blessed to take some really nice ones. The past two seasons I've killed the two bucks I was targeting but may not happen again for awhile, I realize I have been lucky to do so. Seems to me that staying out of his area until the conditions and wind are right helps more than anything. And we never go in the bedding areas until shed season. Shed hunting is another great tool to figuring out where they bed and the trails they use. And right now is a great time to get out there and find them. With the trail cams out today it has no doubt made it easier to pattern deer without stinking up the area. Good Luck and hopefully we'll get to see some pics next year

If you go on several youtube channels, mobile set ups and hunting bedding seems to be a hot tactic this last 10 years. Getting aggressive and being where they are on their feet during daylight hours...bedding.

Re: Deer hunters [Re: Yes sir] #7494866
02/13/22 01:58 PM
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My biggest buck from Virginia.A mountain buck
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