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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536172
03/23/22 08:40 AM
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My 16ft Grumman works excellent. Square stern, nice and stable for me. Used that thing from spring fishing and beaver trapping to fall duck hunting


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536175
03/23/22 08:43 AM
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As above, go with a Raddison/Sportspal. Lightweight, stable, with a keel. Going solo stay lightweight, you’re not running a canoe livery, will be on ponds so would not worry “durability”: Also the Sportspal allows for a sail to be hoisted, which is great fun on bigger water. Stay Lightweight!!! and you’ll go canoeing more often.

Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536191
03/23/22 09:01 AM
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I am a big guy I like my 17 foot Old town Penobscot for 2 people and run it myself also heck I stand and fish from the middle and use the SUP paddle some times

ok the same advice I give for guns , Go paddle it if it is a seriously good deal then buy it and you can always re-sell it

but if your going to drop coin on a great paddle go test them lots of paddle shops have rentals , classes , and can let you test paddle

buy a good paddle for you and a plastic and metal or cheap one to keep around for utility stuff and loaning to others

I know there is a paddle shop on the French island in Lacrosse that does rentals and classes I know Rutabaga in Monona(Madison) Wisconsin does test paddles classes and rentals there are probably countless outfitters or fellow paddles that would let you give their boat a try.


where you have to store it , Aluminum can stay outside most everything else should get under a roof or the sun eats the finish

mine is Roylex it is light , stiff , yet forgiving of rocks

try a bunch


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536198
03/23/22 09:09 AM
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Have a 14' rogue river from Bass Pro. Not built for speed but is very stable. Slides up into the back of the truck easily.

Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: Clark] #7536201
03/23/22 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Clark
As fellow Minnesotans Calvin and I will secretly pride ourselves in knowing more about canoes than the average person. Granted, we would never say that out loud but a casual glance into backyards across the state will reveal that we have an inordinate love for canoes. And there are good ones and bad ones. Generally I agree with Calvin but not entirely…

Weight and material type are the largest concern for me. Many on here are recommending canoes that weigh >70 lbs. That’s fine if you can dump the canoe from the back of your truck into the river/lake/pond. Keeping the weight to 60 lbs max will make for a much nicer canoe. Royalex is a great material and I would recommend a canoe made from it.

Unlike Calvin I don’t think a wider canoe is better. Unless you like the undeniable feeling of paddling (or rowing!) a refrigerator. Keeping it to 30” wide is fine. On a hot summer day learn the limits of your canoe and you’ll never want for a more stable platform.

There are several models of canoes that are designed as either solo or tandem canoes and I think they are in the 15’ range. Keel or keel less? If you’re on a river the keel doesn’t do much for you. If lakes are more your destination then a keel will help, especially if you insist on rowing.

The General crowd ,public Price shops. What they want out of a canoe and what they'll pay for is two different things.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536233
03/23/22 10:03 AM
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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536235
03/23/22 10:08 AM
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The deal with royalex is that the manufacturer of the royalex sheets quit making them a few years back as they were only used for canoe making. Not a big enough market.
So this means you're looking for a used boat. Thing to look for, wear on the stems or the pointy ends where it grounds against the bank. Ideally you get in and out wet feet and don't scrub the bow but it happens. Be cautious of boats worn down below the top color. To far into the foam and you risk delamination. Mild rash can be patched up with a kevlar skid plate.

Avoid wood trim unless you are into the annual rub down and care of wood. Wood is beautiful but it isn't the best option for a beater canoe.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536255
03/23/22 10:29 AM
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https://esquif.com/en/canoe/adirondack/

T formex material, better than the old royal x and lighter too

Length : 12’
Width : 31.5”
Depth : 13’’
Weight : 42 lbs
Colors : Green, Sand, Camo
Style : Pack Canoe Hull
Material : T Formex

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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536257
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In my opinion the Prospector design in 16ft. Length is the best all around canoe ever produced. Has stood the test of time. It literally does everything well.

Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536259
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Length : 12’
Width : 31.5”
Depth : 13’’
Weight : 42 lbs
Colors : Green, Sand, Camo
Style : Pack Canoe Hull
Material : T Formex

Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: teal] #7536269
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Originally Posted by teal
In my opinion the Prospector design in 16ft. Length is the best all around canoe ever produced. Has stood the test of time. It literally does everything well.


The fact that almost all canoe makers have a prospector model or type in their line tells you something.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536286
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I have an Old Town Pack. Excellent for what it is supposed to be used for but very tippy. 12 ft long. 32" wide. 33 pounds.

Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536511
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I’ve been very satisfied with my Radisson after 20+ years

Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536528
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I like the durability of aluminum...15 ft Michi Craft is about perfect in these slow moving mud bottom creeks...It has a keel, 3 built in seats, and factory formed sponsons on the sides for added stability/tip protection.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536578
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Aluminum is nice. I like the Grumman but they are cold, noisy and attracted to rocks.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: warrior] #7536591
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Originally Posted by warrior
Aluminum is nice. I like the Grumman but they are cold, noisy and attracted to rocks.
x2

I have 2 ABS Royalex Old Town's, 1) 14' Camper, easy to handle solo for the same things you want it for, and a Tripper, 17 ', for 2 man, longer trips with extra gear, traps etc. I also use a double blade kayak paddle solo, really helps keep moving. Foam filled hull is it's own flotation, can be rigged with an outrigger thing for a small motor.
A little spendy, but well worth the price IMO.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536661
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All true, you can dampen internal bump noise on aluminum with outdoor turf, padding etc....But on a rocky bottom creek, I wouldn't dare go with aluminum.

Aluminum tends to be on the heavy side also, so a definite portage disadvantage unless your on steroids, Lol.

But for longevity, and mud bottom creeks, it's aluminum for me, all day, everyday.



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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536667
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My 14 ft fibreglas Kawartha canoe-nice and light-throw it in and out of the truck when doing nuisance work,and tough as nails,have been using it steady trapping nuisance and fur for over 25 years at least.
It paddles pretty good on the river too for a workhorse canoe. [Linked Image]


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: BigBob] #7536677
03/23/22 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBob
Originally Posted by warrior
Aluminum is nice. I like the Grumman but they are cold, noisy and attracted to rocks.
x2

I have 2 ABS Royalex Old Town's, 1) 14' Camper, easy to handle solo for the same things you want it for, and a Tripper, 17 ', for 2 man, longer trips with extra gear, traps etc. I also use a double blade kayak paddle solo, really helps keep moving. Foam filled hull is it's own flotation, can be rigged with an outrigger thing for a small motor.
A little spendy, but well worth the price IMO.


I got the same tripper. Nice stable tank of a boat but better for me and the missus for the extra set of hands to get it off the truck, lol. I can portage it but getting to levitate about 6' foot up can be a bear.

If I had deep pockets I'd put my money down on a novacraft pal in tuffstuff. Their 12' trapper looks really good as well for small creeks and swamps.


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Re: Canoe recommendations? [Re: uncleduck] #7536688
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The tail gate extensions are nice that go into the trailer hitch. Even more nice is when there is a roller system on them with some of the old wringer washing machine rubber welded in place to roll the canoe up
Protection from the elements is always good. Even Al gets oxidized and needs polishing ever so often and you will see the glide afterwards.

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