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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8144348
05/25/24 06:19 AM
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One spring high wind event will negate and defeat any oak wilt cutting restriction. Our forester thinks and I, as timberland owner agree. Long term forest succession will happen despite our best efforts. Much of the land in my area was giant White pine, Hemlock, Redpine on uplands and the mix was in lower wetter bottomlands. My forest is littered with 150 year old cut and burnt pine stumps. And now littered with 150 year old dying oaks. Many old pine stumps look like trees were 4 foot across. The oaks filled a gap after mass deforestation Michigan experianced from mid 1850's till early 1900's. Seems our sandy gravely uplands are best suited to many evergreen species. The many pine species are thriving as the broadleafs are dying or crowded out by trees that grow best in our climate and soils. I have Hemlock and White pine along the river front that must have been tiny in the 1850's timber boom. they are now un sellable due to large size and difficulty to harvest.


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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8145335
05/26/24 10:40 PM
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Around here white pine can sometimes take over

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: AJE] #8145370
05/27/24 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AJE
Around here white pine can sometimes take over

I'm ok with the pines taking the land back. Before human intervention our area was as mother nature felt it should be.


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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8145374
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I am responsible for killing my share !


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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8145375
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I try to work them up on my place as they fall. Hate to see them lay and waste.

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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8145456
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Yea me too, bought a Sawmill and make em into lumber then build hunting shacks with it.

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8145470
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I was wondering if the droughts last summer in Minnesota were taking its toll on the Red's this spring. I have about 8-10 in my yard that look completely dead or just have leaves on a limited number of branches. The trees with only a few branches of leaves have dead looking tops.

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8145533
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Cicada will start boring into the outer limbs very soon.

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Reaperman] #8163453
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Originally Posted by Reaperman
I was wondering if the droughts last summer in Minnesota were taking its toll on the Red's this spring. I have about 8-10 in my yard that look completely dead or just have leaves on a limited number of branches. The trees with only a few branches of leaves have dead looking tops.

I wonder too what effect that might have had

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8163499
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I will send anybody who pays postage some red oak acorns soon as they drop this fall.


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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8170155
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The end of next month is when I intend to start picking up white oak acorns. White oak, b/c they're less likely to get wilt.

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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8192792
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The acorns appear to be on schedule. Some are already falling.

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8206858
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Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8206926
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We get a wasp that causes a knot on the limb and the bad infestation will wipe out red oaks my cousin lost 10 acres to this

Re: What’s killing all the red oak? [Re: Striperfred] #8255111
11/05/24 11:20 PM
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Maybe all the buckthorn is stealing some of the moisture from red oaks

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