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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7685167
10/04/22 01:01 PM
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An indian friend of mine told about him using that term at a POW WOW meeting. He caught holy H..L from the indian women.

Apparently to them that term makes a woman a White mans (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)! Not good.

This was 30 years ago he told me that.


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849167
04/20/23 12:08 AM
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I went to a public meeting last night about a proposed new road name for a Squaw Creek Road. One of the residents on the road suggested Squawk Creek Road last night. He was told that won't fly either. Another guy proposed Raccoon Road but then they said that won't fly. It was a tense meeting. There's a Squawk Creek in Florida. The guy last night got pounded for suggesting they change it to Squawk Creek Road.

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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: Boco] #7849174
04/20/23 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Highly offensive to native women
Be like someone calling your wife or daughter the C-word.

And in Australia, that word is common usage and not deemed offensive!


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849175
04/20/23 12:25 AM
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Bankhead Lock and Dam aka Lock 17 on my Warrior river back home sits atop Squaw Shoals. And the lock chamber is fed by Indian Creek.

So named for the "native american" town that once sat at the junction of said creek and river.

BTW the full name of the river is the Black Warrior River named in honor of Chief Tuscaloosa which in English means black warrior.


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849188
04/20/23 01:00 AM
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you'll better rename squaw creek tyranny creek and keep up with the times.

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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: 20scout] #7849197
04/20/23 01:27 AM
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The word "squaw" is taken from a French word (slang) in reference to female genitalia.


Not true but it was once on the Oprah Winfrey show:

The origin of the word "squaw" has been traced to the Algonquian language, in which it meant simply "woman." It should be noted that terms like squaw bread and squaw dance are still pretty widely used in Indian Country.
In its historical origin the word squaw is perfectly innocent, as current dictionaries also correctly indicate: squaw comes from a language of the Algonquian family in which it meant "woman.''

A competing claim has been made in recent years, despite the clear evidence that squaw comes from an Algonquian word for "woman,'' and in fact without discussing this evidence. This is the claim (often somewhat garbled) that squaw actually comes from the Mohawk word ojiskwa', which we can politely translate `vagina'. Mohawk was spoken some 200 miles from Plymouth in the Mohawk Valley by the principal enemies of the Massachusett Indians. It is, of course, a language of the Iroquoian family, which is completely distinct from the Algonquian family. Ms. Charwood-Litzau refers to (but misquotes) the earliest published reference to this idea that I know of, an anthology called Literature of the American Indian edited by Thomas E. Sanders and Walter W. Peek (Berkeley: Glencoe Press, 1973). There the origin is given as "probably a French corruption of the Iroquois word otsiskwa meaning `female sexual parts''' (p. 184). The spelling used is the traditional system used by French Canadian missionaries, but the source of the information is not given. This claim has more recently become widely known because of the following statement made on the Oprah Winfrey television show in 1992 by Suzan Harjo: "The word squaw, for example, is an Algonquian [sic] Indian word meaning 'vagina,' and that'll give you an idea what the French and British fur-trappers were calling all Indian women, and I hope no one ever uses that term again.'' (From the program "Racism in 1992: Native Americans,'' as transcribed from a videotape by Jim Rementer at the request of a Delawa
https://repository.si.edu/bitstream...article%20on%20web%20page.pdf?sequence=1

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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849210
04/20/23 04:44 AM
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Everybody wants something to be offended by. my son makes a type of smoked fish marinated in maple syrup thats just delicious. The west coast Indian that taught him how called it squaw candy.


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: AntiGov] #7849229
04/20/23 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
We have the same stupid woke crap going on here as well


Local Squaw Creek changed to wychus Creek


I will always call it Squaw Creek


“Wychus”, is that pronounced like an Elmer Fudd “righteous”?


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: Boco] #7849230
04/20/23 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Highly offensive to native women
Be like someone calling your wife or daughter the C-word.


“Crazy”?


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849253
04/20/23 06:58 AM
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Next thing you know they will be renaming schools and roads. George Floyd avenue, that's an improvement.

Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: Marty] #7849261
04/20/23 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
'took my squaw to town and traded her for a Hawken gun'

smile

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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849269
04/20/23 07:37 AM
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Squaw Creek National Wildlife Refuge in NW Missouri was renamed by the feds to Loess Hills NWR.
It was done as Obama was leaving office.
It will be Squaw Creek Refuge until I’m dead.

Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849271
04/20/23 07:38 AM
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It happened in MPLS MN. Too


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849272
04/20/23 07:40 AM
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This is old news, although DoI Sec Haaland may have accelerated it. There is a governmental body called "Board of Geographic Names" who have been changing "offensive" names from say USGS Topographic Maps for a a number of years already but also changing Euro-American names "back" to native names. I used to know a guy who's proudest accomplishment was helping change "Mt. McKinley" to "Denali".

Some of the names were actually sort of funny and who really knows how they got started. There was "Bloody Dick Creek" somewhere out West. Now maybe it actually came from something sexual or maybe it was just a guy's name that he got from something else, like Ole Joe meeting Corn Pop but in reality Corn Pop got the best of him so Ole Joe became know as "Bloody Joe". But some names were pretty obvious. In southwest South Dakota we used to have "Squawhumper Table" and "Little Squawhumper Table". Those two have been gone for a while wink...

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/does-board-geographic-names-decide-what-derogatory-or-offensive

https://www.usgs.gov/national-digital-trails/status-nationwide-digital-trails-dataset

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-department-completes-removal-sq-federal-use


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849280
04/20/23 07:52 AM
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I guess pretty soon we will have to rename the Grand Tetons because the name comes from the French designation meaning "Big Breasts," except the "breast" word used begins with "t" and ends with "its."

In my mind after a few centuries the origin of a word no longer matters, especially when the origin is from another language. At some point it just becomes a word and there is no special connotation, just a meaning. But then we have people who search far and wide to find something to be offended about. Does anyone actually know if the origin of Native American language words for their women are any less offensive to the perpetually offended?

Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849286
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I refuse to worry about it. Its a waste of time to worry about offending someone. Anybody reading this that can honestly say they never had someone say something offensive to them? I fail to see how the word squaw could be offensive.


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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849289
04/20/23 08:05 AM
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Calling them that has been a big no-no for a looong time.

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Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849296
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If I move somewhere and there is “Cracker Creek”, im burnin this mother down.

Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849322
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They renamed all the bases around here too. They will still be ft Pickett a d ft lee until I'm gone too. I'll never use the new names, they sound stupid for 1 thing. Guess that's the times we live in " stupid times"!

Re: The "Woke" have hit our lakes... [Re: K-zoo] #7849335
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No wonder Johnson went under.

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