Re: Native American stone tools
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Here in Alaska keeping the waterhole and net holes ice free for seven months of the year was a full time job. The beach here is littered with ice pick heads of all sizes. They were not worked for beauty but functionality. Here is a small sample. Check out the one made out of a fossil is not a pick head, I believe its a fish opener.
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Here in Alaska keeping the waterhole and net holes ice free for seven months of the year was a full time job. The beach here is littered with ice pick heads of all sizes. They were not worked for beauty but functionality. Here is a small sample. Check out the one made out of a fossil is not a pick head, I believe its a fish opener. Most of what I find is pretty crude too. Keith
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Thats a pretty awesome collection of axes. Here are a few more oddities I have found. Note the knapped glass and porcelain spear point. Thats the stone age meeting the 19 th century Not sure what the round coin things are but made out of stone.
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Here in Alaska keeping the waterhole and net holes ice free for seven months of the year was a full time job. I am sure it was. What was cordage for nets made from in the old days?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Nate, if you have a family of say 25 people living together , say a half dozen are little kids, a couple are old. They are not going to walk very far away to relieve their selves. The rest of the clan is going to have a bad day once in a while where they dont walk very far too. A drink of bad water, eat to many mulberries or whatever. So after while they would move. I always figured they would ring the bark from some trees to have firewood when they came back. Especially a nice place to spend winter months. close to meat animals, maybe lots of rose hips and acorns or whatever. A stand of dead trees would sure be a big plus.
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Went back out today and found this. Thought maybe what they call a chip or flake but not sure. As someone that flint knaps (makes stone tools) that is most certainly a flake. That is not to say, it wasn't used as a tool. Often, I my flakes are used to cut things from leather to rope and even cardboard. The hertzian cone is clearly visible on the lighter end, that is where the knapper struck the stone to knock off the flake. The step fractures in the darker portion of the stone stopped/used up a lot of the energy of the strike.
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Here in Alaska keeping the waterhole and net holes ice free for seven months of the year was a full time job. I am sure it was. What was cordage for nets made from in the old days? I am was told the long roots from Spruce trees and or woven grass. Most used fish traps, and spears and bows to fish as well.
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Re: Native American stone tools
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I bet it took many hours to produce a net. I suspect too a lot of fish harvest was done in open water. I have seen videos of groups of people driving fish into rock corals in shallow water then blocking the entrance. I dont know if that technique was employed where you are but it was interesting and looked effective.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Native American stone tools
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Let me entertain you with this crazy idea. I believe I found a human mukluk print that was mud and turned to stone and popped out. The only reason I think so is because I have seen alot of mukluk prints and made them myself. It was found in a area that had alot of stone tools as well. What say the armchair archeologists? [img] https://i.imgur.com/RGHUaHn.jpg[/ I am was told the long roots from Spruce trees and or woven grass. Most used fish traps, and spears and bows to fish as well. I have posted some that are at our museum before of the funnel traps
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Re: Native American stone tools
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there are some foot-prints in a SW National park that the sand blew away and the silt went into the prints. There was evidence that these people were here hunting wooly mammoths and it moved the time table back another 10K years you can even see lateral lines in the prints and there was a young child there as well There was a special on PBS about that. Conditions have to be just right for fossils to form. Until there was a relatively large amount of people, to make fossils, the chances of somebody finding those fossils today would be infinitesimal. Homo sapiens are probably much older as a species than most people think. Keith
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Re: Native American stone tools
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it is actual time period of people in NA that these foot prints proved conditions were a silty marsh and then flooded foot prints then covering there has been extensive arch work done there and with the plant material C14 dated above and below the prints sea floor rising has covered all the coast travel along Alaska/BC to find stuff Found these today. These were all found in a low spot where this field drains to and ran outta time to look it over good looks like a well water washed obsidian rock at 6pm in your photo
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