Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
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04/25/23 05:54 AM
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… the original man stopper …44 long colt x2 If you’re looking for accuracy, the long colt isn’t a very good option unless you are shooting within three feet of the target. lol
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 06:36 AM
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I've killed a bunch of deer with handguns. Most have been with a 44 magnum, several with 41 magnums. I admit to never killing one with a 357 magnum. I have however taken a bunch with a 357 Maximum. Admittedly the Maximum in a revolver is somewhat of a rare bird, but they are out there, totally a reloading option. The 41's are available but ammo again can be an issue. It's pretty much a reloading option. My longest open sight kill was with a 4 inch S&W 57, 41 magnum. Doe was hauling butt. I hit her at 89 paces, she skidded 9 paces on her chin. And yes I hit her where I was aiming, one shot. My longest shot with a scoped gun was pushing a 100 yards +/-. That gun is a 7 1/2 inch Red Hawk with a red dot sight. At one time it wore a scope which I didn't like, too hard to shoot offhand as the scope amplifies the shakes. With the red dot you just don't see the shakes as much. They are there, you just don't see them. I much prefer hunting with open sights. The last few years the gun I have carried is chambered in 44 Special, a 5 1/2 inch Ruger Black Hawk with a Bisley grip frame. More than enough power, I have never gotten a slug back. I use heavy for caliber slugs that I cast myself using wheel weight lead. The Maximum gets a 180 grain slug, the 44 magnums 310 grain, and the 44 Special is 260 grain. I only have one Taurus, a 454 Raging Bull that I am still figuring out. Four of the five chambers will give me a very nice 4 shot group. The fifth puts its shot out an inch or two at 25 yards off bags. That chamber throat is larger than the other four. At present the cylinder is out to have all the throats made the same. I won't be buying another Taurus or a 454 for that matter. After I get it back and figured out, it's going down the road. Besides the chamber throat issue I can't keep the ejector rod to stay screwed down.
I have never had any issues at all with S&W or Ruger guns. The Smiths are superbly accurate. They just can't take a steady diet of heavy loads that the Rugers can. The Red Hawks in my estimation are indestructible when fed by any sane hand-loader. For velocities I get 1500 fps out of the Maximum with a 180 grain slug, 44 Magnum 1200 with the 310, and 1050 with a 260 out of the 44 Special. Can I get more out of them? Sure, but why? They group very very well and I never get any slugs back. So what's the point. I have a range finder, I know my trajectory and I shoot a lot.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 07:19 AM
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I like the longest barrel for accuracy,and prefer a vented rib instead of a scope.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 08:12 AM
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danny clifton
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I have killed two deer with my 357 revolver and one with my remington replica 44 cap and ball. Its like bow hunting. Get close shoot careful. Never owned a 44. Keep thinking I need one. Then I get visions of a 454 casull or something similar. That has to be fun to shoot/hunt with.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 08:14 AM
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Of the two you list my nood would go with the GP100, nothing against the Taurus just a fan of the GP, if I was looking for a 44 mag I would look for an older Ruger Blackhawk or one of these Top gun is a Uberti Badboy, at the local GS or cost me 599.99 and while I have yet to shot a deer with it, I can manage to keep all 6 on a 6inch paper plate at 100 using a rest off the bench I have other 44mag S&W, Ruger even a colt anaconda, there a handful especially with full bore loads, but at the same time if you hand load you can tailor a load to whatever you want from lite plinking to big bear, not to mention it makes shooting one a lot less costly, and right now 44 mag ammo is still hard to find at least around here
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 08:57 AM
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danny clifton
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Providence, in 357 I use the same powder charge and bullet weight, but shoot wheel weight lead cast bullets from a lyman mould. Both deer had plenty of internal damage. Did not go very far.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: danny clifton]
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04/25/23 09:16 AM
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Providence, in 357 I use the same powder charge and bullet weight, but shoot wheel weight lead cast bullets from a lyman mould. Both deer had plenty of internal damage. Did not go very far. Casting has always been part of the plan but it's something else that requires time to learn a new skill and sizing and lubing equipment I would need to learn how to use. I don't even have a reloading set up at home. It's still down at my other house 100 miles away. I'm very limited on time. 357is one of the most versatile revolvers. Take a black hawlk. Shoot 357 and 38 out of the 357 cylinder, change the cylinder and shoot 9mm. 3 caliber availability in a pinch if you need it.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 09:29 AM
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danny clifton
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Point the gun at the deer. Pull back on the trigger as you c o c k it. Release the triiger. Lower the hammer. with a single action you still get a couple little clicks but not as loud. The deer I shot with with my cap and ball was not spooked by it at all. Turned his head to look at me but I was in postion to shoot already.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 10:45 AM
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no one says you can't thumb back the hammer when they are 50 yards out
same with taking the safety off a rifle and shouldering it , you wait till they turn their head or head is behind a tree
it is more likely the movement than noise unless they are right under you
they might be crunching a bit walking through the woods
if you want to try an experiment , show your wife (or friend) how to hammer back your revolver and let it down even if she dry fires it at the ground take the rounds out of it, see how far away you can hear her do it with your back turned to her. pick a still night , morning , a bit of a breeze try it few times. add a little bit to that for deer having better ears. it will likely be much less than when you would start seeing them walking in.
people have been thumbing back the hammer on a gun for 400+ years and shooting deer
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 11:38 AM
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I have a Colt King Cobra 357. I think it's the best one I've ever owned. I've had Rugers and Taurus in 357 and 44 Magnum, but like the Colts better.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 11:52 AM
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you may want to go shop gun smiths that do nice trigger jobs on revolvers' , see what they will and won't work on , that can better inform your decision of what to buy
with minimal points of contact how good you can make the single action trigger pull on a revolver is often a big factor in how well you can shoot it the better out of the box trigger is good , but if you do plan to take it further some designs lend themselves to getting better than others. a lot of this is aftermarket parts availability. so see what is available for spring kits and such.
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Re: Looking for advice on buying a revolver
[Re: Massac]
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04/25/23 05:13 PM
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In .44 the Ruger will handle the stouter loads that the Smith Model 29 will not, is that correct?
Mike
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