Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: backroadsarcher]
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08/04/23 10:38 PM
08/04/23 10:38 PM
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SNIPERBBB
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Dont think Ill ever go back to a weighted drowner unless I just dont have an option. When I did use them, I did the feed sack thing and i filled those bags till I could barely lift them myself. I rarely had a bag drug back up the bank unless I got lazy and didnt fill it enough and it was a shallower creek.
I dont use a lot of rebar drowners, unless I am right beside the truck which doesnt happen a lot for me, which is why mose of mine are fiberglass. Rod drowners are just such a speed tool that you really cant beat them unless you gotta get into some gnarly stuff to access the beaver. when I stake the rods, I try to but a bit of flex in the rods which helps keep pushing the rod into the bottom end making them harder to pull out of the bottom.
One thing ill mention with any slider system you use...if your top stake isnt holding well you might want to cable that top end off to something. I have had beaver refuse to go down the rod/cable and did have a beaver once that jacked the top stake and by some miracle it just stayed put. Course when i got there i didnt have my gun handy and it bolted. luckily the stake was nearby and i grabbed the rod , then the stake, restaked the trap and ran back to the truck for my gun.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: backroadsarcher]
#7920992
08/05/23 02:31 AM
08/05/23 02:31 AM
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Posts: 5,787 West Central MN
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Muck bottoms for the most part around here. Had better luck with rods than wire or cable but can drive close to my sets too.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: backroadsarcher]
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08/06/23 10:46 AM
08/06/23 10:46 AM
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There is nothing blasphemous, immoral or illegal about having a live beaver at your sets. On my line, I use 8-10 ft cable extensions on a 40-inch snare. The beavers don’t appear to be stressed at all. Dispatch is quick when I get there.
On a partnered line, we use 8-10 ft, half or 5/8-inch rebar jammed into the bottom and staked on top. We use snares on these drowners, mostly, but do have a number of 330s thrown in for the underwater/under ice locations.
Other than the 24-hour check requirements, I really like not having to carry rebar.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: Teacher]
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08/06/23 11:04 AM
08/06/23 11:04 AM
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There is nothing blasphemous, immoral or illegal about having a live beaver at your sets. On my line, I use 8-10 ft cable extensions on a 40-inch snare. The beavers don’t appear to be stressed at all. Dispatch is quick when I get there.
On a partnered line, we use 8-10 ft, half or 5/8-inch rebar jammed into the bottom and staked on top. We use snares on these drowners, mostly, but do have a number of 330s thrown in for the underwater/under ice locations.
Other than the 24-hour check requirements, I really like not having to carry rebar. Agreed with a few caveats. Back foot and no entanglement if using footholds. I like long chains but rarely have a clear enough site to avoid entanglement. Snares no issue if swiveling isn't compromised. Kinked and twisted cable is not good.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: backroadsarcher]
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08/07/23 08:37 AM
08/07/23 08:37 AM
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I use cable drowners. In the areas I trap the bottom is usually silt mud. I have been using cement blocks at the bottom but been having problems with big beaver making it to the bottom and pulling the block up to high ground. Plus they are not desirable to carry in a long way. Are you using blocks like this? What a pain it is to pull the buggers up after a catch! And when you toss the thing in, it’s nice to have enough cable attached to it. If not, and you’re hanging onto the tail end, the bricks momentum will pull you into the water and in my case chest waders were pointless. I coulda got away with wearing trunks & flipflops that day. Bought a Hagz rod set up to try, looks like it should be easier.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: backroadsarcher]
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08/07/23 11:19 AM
08/07/23 11:19 AM
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Never understood why trappers would haul around heavy weight when you can just stake the deep end of the drown wire. Can easily make a pile of sets with a packsack of traps,pliers roll of wire and a boys axe. Then just stand your poles up under a spruce to use as drowning stakes next time,or for under ice snares or tee pee sets in winter.
Last edited by Boco; 08/07/23 11:21 AM.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: Boco]
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08/07/23 12:50 PM
08/07/23 12:50 PM
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Never understood why trappers would haul around heavy weight when you can just stake the deep end of the drown wire. Can easily make a pile of sets with a packsack of traps,pliers roll of wire and a boys axe. Then just stand your poles up under a spruce to use as drowning stakes next time,or for under ice snares or tee pee sets in winter. There is not a sapling that straight in any of these southern swamps. Plus I've yet to figure out how to stake the deep end in water over my head....and a hard-packed sandy bottom.
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs.
[Re: backroadsarcher]
#7922613
08/07/23 01:26 PM
08/07/23 01:26 PM
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Swamp, glad you posted that. Staking the deep end of a drowner most of the time would be a float your hat situation for sure. I have set drowning rods where the bottom of the 10' rod is just hanging. Double staked at the top with an extension cable just in case the critter worked the stakes loose. Same deal sometimes with a rocky bottom that you can not get the bottom end set.
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