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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: crosspatch] #8018017
12/11/23 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Originally Posted by mad_mike
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More organizational based propaganda in the latest ATA Alaska Trapper magazine. Barely got the cover open and there it was!

I joke. Being a supporter of the ATA I approve of their message.


Gonna catch it for this one but would add if you can not bring yourself to convert to Conibear type traps for marten then at least quit posting pics of marten hanging from poles in foot traps. The antis just love those fresh pics of that sort of thing.



Crosspatch: Please note that the guidance in that alert refers to LARGE body grip traps. Has nothing to do with marten trapping. But then, we are lucky to have a choice of devices for trapping and don't have to knuckle under to what government bureaucrats think is "best" for us dumb trappers. I think YOU should choose whatever device works for you... and I will use whatever device works best for me.

Pete

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8018118
12/11/23 11:05 AM
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Marten hanging out of trees in foot traps is a system that works for none of us with the general public.

Had my day with foot traps for marten and converted, out of respect for the animal, long before any law came in on it.

Last edited by crosspatch; 12/11/23 11:07 AM.
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: crosspatch] #8018121
12/11/23 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by crosspatch

Gonna catch it for this one but would add if you can not bring yourself to convert to Conibear type traps for marten then at least quit posting pics of marten hanging from poles in foot traps. The antis just love those fresh pics of that sort of thing.

Nah, I am not going to derail Slick Pan’s thread with any talk of that nonsense.
If that is what you want to talk about, then I encourage you to start a thread about the subject.

Last edited by mad_mike; 12/11/23 11:40 AM.
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8018123
12/11/23 11:13 AM
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I know the Anti's don't love Pete. I'm not sure if they care how marten are harvested. I think they hate all the ways.

I think the post above about marten pictures should have been on the thread with marten pictures, not here.

Last edited by Dirt; 12/11/23 11:19 AM.

Who is John Galt?
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8018139
12/11/23 11:39 AM
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Has nothing to do with antis.
Ask the states where trapping is banned to find out it was the gen public,not antis.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8018141
12/11/23 11:41 AM
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Yay! The Maple Leaf train wreck has arrived!

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Boco] #8018174
12/11/23 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Has nothing to do with antis.
Ask the states where trapping is banned to find out it was the gen public,not antis.


I wonder why they banned conibears? You should actually research how these bans came about.

"Washington Initiative 713 was on the ballot as an initiative to the people in Washington on November 7, 2000. It was approved.

A “yes” vote supported classifying hunting animals with body-gripping traps or poison as a misdemeanor.

A “no” vote opposed classifying hunting animals with body-gripping traps or poison as a misdemeanor."

Here's one for you!


Last edited by Dirt; 12/11/23 12:33 PM.

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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8019012
12/12/23 12:31 PM
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I guess Slick Pan got it finally. He is recommending the ATA Wolf Trapping Manual to a trapper on Trap Talk a couple hours ago that was having difficulty with wolves. "Wolf Trapping.....What a Drag"

Last edited by Oh Snap; 12/12/23 12:56 PM.

I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Oh Snap] #8019623
12/13/23 07:00 AM
12/13/23 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
I guess Slick Pan got it finally. He is recommending the ATA Wolf Trapping Manual to a trapper on Trap Talk a couple hours ago that was having difficulty with wolves. "Wolf Trapping.....What a Drag"



That other thread is a fun read... Several folks picked up on Slick Pan's duplicity! In one post, he claims not to have read the Wolf Manual! Yet he proclaims it is not a useful tool for trappers!

Pete

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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8020168
12/13/23 08:56 PM
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I asked him why he’s recommending the book when before he was throwing the authors under the bus but didn’t even read it. Then we went back and forth with the little shots. He still hasn’t said if he’s actually got anything…..just a Lycan. The banter back & forth is between us is ok, as long as it’s funny. Everybody else laughing at the 2 rookies going back & forth….bunch a jerks, hahahaha.
And ya, this was one of the first wolf books on wolves I’ve bought…..no regrets. Reading the Frank Glaser one now, just started, really good.
Ordered The Real Wolf and got the 3 Stan Young books. Still haven’t read Last of the Loners….crap I got alotta reading ahead, no time to trap!

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8020369
12/14/23 01:27 AM
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I think just reading various threads by some of the members here is pretty educational. For wolves, JR Pedersons thread has videos that are pretty good.
I have got bits and pieces of info over the years that, added up, have noticeably improved my catch.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8020471
12/14/23 08:42 AM
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I’m always finding new stuff on this site, never knew about this sub forum until a few days ago…lol. I can’t seem to find JR Pederson’s wolf stuff, must be spelling the name wrong or?

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8020541
12/14/23 10:18 AM
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Shakeyjake , it's the AKHowler post below that's filled with good information as is Ryan's ok everyone who has wolves and catches them on a regular basis is well worth the time to read and a closer look .

Jim Massic sorry I'm sure I just butchered his last name and Pete were both a wealth of information when I took a wolf trapping class at the Western NTA in Miles City .

The wolves don't have much of a chance in this area with every rancher and ranch hand packing a rifle , but we're getting grizzly bears with in 20 miles of town go figure .


Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Shakeyjake] #8020653
12/14/23 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
I’m always finding new stuff on this site, never knew about this sub forum until a few days ago…lol. I can’t seem to find JR Pederson’s wolf stuff, must be spelling the name wrong or?



AKHowler's Trapline Journal. Spend the time to read JR's life adventures on his line. He is among the best. The thread is right on this section of the forum. I posted the link to him below.


https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4211144/akhowlers-trapline-journal#Post4211144

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8020988
12/14/23 08:36 PM
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Thanks for the link Sharon! I’m only on page 3 but it’s good!

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8022565
12/16/23 08:38 PM
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Dang it! Saw some fur that wasn’t fox in the mess, little yote tried to slip through. Never seem yote in this area.
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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8022627
12/16/23 09:29 PM
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Flank catch with the ram?


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Boco] #8022941
12/17/23 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Flank catch with the ram?

Yea, tried going through…..

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8023216
12/17/23 03:26 PM
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Some of you Canucks and lower 48 guys set for wolves around corn fields? Whoulda thought?

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8023468
12/17/23 07:57 PM
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Looks like a cattail swamp to me.


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