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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8047770
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by James
The federal government is incompetent, overbearing, and arrogant.

It is not corrupt, though no doubt a small percentage of government employees may be.

Don't y'all ever get tired of conspiracy theories?

Jim



Funny they've all been proven true so far!



All of them? No kidding.

Wouldn't that mean you've never heard of a conspiracy theory you don't believe?

Jim


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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Scout1] #8047778
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Originally Posted by Scout1
Originally Posted by James
The federal government is incompetent, overbearing, and arrogant.

It is not corrupt, though no doubt a small percentage of government employees may be.

Don't y'all ever get tired of conspiracy theories?

Jim

Lois Gail Lerner comes to mind???


So whatever happened to her, anyway?

Help my memory. Was she the IRS Commissioner who was accused of using IRS audits to punish political enemies, and who pleaded the Fifth when called to testify before Congress?

Let's assume she was guilty. She didn't get away with it for long, did she? The government, which you say is corrupt, did catch and correct that act of corrupt employees before long. Our Constitution's system of checks and balances worked as intended.

I've dealt--and fought--with a good number of government employees. I've reversed and over-turned some of them, cussed them, and commiserated with clients over a few of their decisions. I've found them to be arrogant, overbearing, and pig-headed--or small people impressed with their own little sphere of power.

But I never ran into one I considered corrupt.

Jim


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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047789
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James if you think Lois Lerner was just a one off rogue actor not acting complicit with others if not under direction then your not just naive.


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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047793
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Sure, I'll concede we probably didn't get all the scoundrels involved. Maybe she wasn't even the top guy. But the scheme did get stopped. Our system of checks and balances doesn't guarantee the flight will always be smooth, without turbulence, but it usually results in a safe landing.

Like you, I'm not satisfied with the outcome of that scandal. There should have been a reckoning by the Obama administration. It's to his shame that there wasn't.

Was she even fired after taking the Fifth?

Jim


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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047877
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It all started with a story of a cherry tree that got choped down.
Then I heard that story was fabricated. So now I'm confused.

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047886
01/13/24 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Was it during the Clinton, Bush or Obama era? We know it is corrupt in the Trump and Biden Administration


Income taxes. That's when it started.

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047887
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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: James] #8047897
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Originally Posted by James
Sure, I'll concede we probably didn't get all the scoundrels involved. Maybe she wasn't even the top guy. But the scheme did get stopped. Our system of checks and balances doesn't guarantee the flight will always be smooth, without turbulence, but it usually results in a safe landing.

Like you, I'm not satisfied with the outcome of that scandal. There should have been a reckoning by the Obama administration. It's to his shame that there wasn't.

Was she even fired after taking the Fifth?

Jim

If I remember correctly she was fired/resigned but was given another position in the bureaucracy.

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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: James] #8047899
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Originally Posted by James
The federal government is incompetent, overbearing, and arrogant.

It is not corrupt, though no doubt a small percentage of government employees may be.

Don't y'all ever get tired of conspiracy theories?

Jim

I feel much better now.

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047900
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Illegal adoption of the the 14th amendment, 1868.
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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047914
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Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047935
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LBJ kicked it into over drive

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Muskeg] #8047942
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Originally Posted by Muskeg
LBJ kicked it into over drive


Word.

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: James] #8047955
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Originally Posted by James
Sure, I'll concede we probably didn't get all the scoundrels involved. Maybe she wasn't even the top guy. But the scheme did get stopped. Our system of checks and balances doesn't guarantee the flight will always be smooth, without turbulence, but it usually results in a safe landing.

Like you, I'm not satisfied with the outcome of that scandal. There should have been a reckoning by the Obama administration. It's to his shame that there wasn't.

Was she even fired after taking the Fifth?

Jim

I guess Ruby Ridge and WACO were just conspiracy theories!! Too bad KKKlintons Janet Reno was innocent!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047958
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Was Hitlary ever charged for buying a fake Dossier, handing over to RINO McCain and costing the tax payers BILLIONS in investigations and special Councils all because she cried because she lost!!! Never was and never will!! Just like the people that died associated with her!! Remember Whitewater and the deaths of the many involved. All just conspiracy theories!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Blaine County] #8047966
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Muskeg
LBJ kicked it into over drive


Word.

I didn't know anyone still said that! grin

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8047969
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Illegal adoption of the the 14th amendment, 1868.
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Can you imagine all the change for good that would occur if this amendment would be declared null and void?


Who is John Galt?
Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8047973
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It started with NIXON and it's been going down thru the years.

Re: When did the Federal Govt. go corrupt. [Re: Guss] #8047976
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Originally Posted by Guss
It started with NIXON and it's been going down thru the years.

I think I'd take Nixon again over most of those we've had since.

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