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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127525
04/23/24 10:20 PM
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Products like Sawyer only contain .5% Permethrin and cost anywhere from .50 to a dollar/ounce. Go online and get a 32 oz bottle of Martin’s Permethrin SFR for about $1.25/ounce. SFR basically means it is 36.8% Permethrin. Where I went to school, the mix of 1 oz of SFR Permethrin to 24 oz water, would yield a content of 1.47% Permethrin( almost 3 times content of Sawyer). At this same ratio, the 32 oz bottle will make 6 gallons of mix. Or, put 6 2/3 oz of Permethrin SFR in a gallon jug, top off with water, and you have a 2% content. I soak my pants in this, and they claim it’s good for a few washes. 3 1/3 oz per gallon of water yields 1% and will take care of a lot of fire ant beds.

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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127531
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I use the sfr 36.8 at 2 ounce per gallon of water.
Spray my pants until it runs off. Let dry and swear by it.
After 2 rounds of lymes I am a faithful user,


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127610
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If it works that good, wonder how long it will be until its by prescription only ?

Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127643
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Have been using permethrin that you get from feed stores 1 Oz in 5 gals water totally dunk clothes in bucket hang to air dry fold up place in large plastic bag good to go


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127674
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Dosage does matter !

On a Friday a guy noticed his old barn cat was not acting right and was worried about him as he was the ringleader of a bunch of farm cats. He called the local vet and upon explaining the cats symptoms to him, the vet said it sounded like he was constipated. The vet said he had to catch a flight in a little bit to go to a wedding and couldn't come out. He told him to go a head and give him 1 pint of mineral oil. The guy said, but Doc ain't that an awful lot. Doc said now listen, I've been doctoring animals 40 yrs and I know what I'm doing. Doc said he had to leave but would be back Monday and would check on him.
The hard of hearing Doc gets back on Monday and gives the farmer a call and asks him how the calf is doing. WHAT, he ain't no calf he is a cat. OH MY, well how is the cat doing?
Farmer replies, he acts younger and more active than he has been in years. He has 3 digging holes, 2 covering up and 1 searching for new territory !

Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127683
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I remember during the buildup, and desert storm in early 90’s

Permethrin was sold out every where,,couldn’t find any

Apparently there’s a lot of bugs over in the sand and the national guard folks were going store to store buying it all

Could only find OFF

Worst ever Turkey season for tick bites,,,,,,

Huge believer in permethrin for tick protection!!!

Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127694
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Never spray it on your skin. I spray it on my work pants and shoes when I'm in the woods. It works better than Deet, IMO.


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127720
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Sawyer’s might only be 0.5% Permethrin but is very effective at that percentage. I don’t know why you would want to take a chance with adverse health effects by mixing it stronger, there’s no need.


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: spjones] #8127733
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Originally Posted by spjones
I remember during the buildup, and desert storm in early 90’s

Permethrin was sold out every where,,couldn’t find any

Apparently there’s a lot of bugs over in the sand and the national guard folks were going store to store buying it all

Could only find OFF

Worst ever Turkey season for tick bites,,,,,,

Huge believer in permethrin for tick protection!!!

sand flees

they were also buying up dog flee collars and using them on their ankles just above their boots

most of the flee collars are plastic with permethrin incorporated.


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8127818
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The oils in your skin netrulize Permethrin . Use Deet on skin and Permethrin on clothing.


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8128029
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Permethrin 5% cream has been available for human use for scabies by prescription only for probably over 20 years.


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: warrior] #8128050
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Originally Posted by warrior
It is supposed to survive intact through several washings so I assume it doesn't wash off or transfer.

You can buy it in the clothing & it's good for like 70 washes. Easier/safer than an aerosol spray. I don't know if they make it in pants but I've seen it in shirts.

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Re: Permethrin? [Re: warrior] #8128055
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Originally Posted by warrior
I use it as a ground drench in the beeyard for small hive beetle. It does double duty for ant control as well.

Apply it at night with a sprinkler can to avoid drift onto the bees or as a pretreatment before moving bees onto a yard. Best results if grass is cut short and raked to get good soil contact.

The labeled product for SHB is guardstar but I use the generic permethrin.


Thanks for that tip for use in the bee yard. We're supposed to get a lot of rain thru the weekend, but after it dries out I'm going to try it. I spray my clothes for ticks anyway so I already keep it around. I was going to try diatomaceous earth for around the hives but the permethrin will be a bunch cheaper.

Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8128222
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We used in Nam !


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8128448
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Well Foxpaw, nobody else commented but know this; I enjoyed your very insightful contribution to this tread. laugh


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Re: Permethrin? [Re: harrison72] #8128475
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I sprayed my pants,long sleeve shirt, sweatshirt and the top part of my Muck boots. Going turkey hunting in the morning and I will spray everything including myself with Deep Woods Off. Thanks for all the comments, I will report back tomorrow after I get home and do a "full body" tick search, LOL.

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