I am helping sell a friends collection for his widow

there is some nice stuff but there is a bunch of Junk he was the type to leave a gun in every room in cruiser

there is a Chinese clone of a 870 made by the same company that made the NEF Pardner pump it is Chinese

they don't even get bids on gun broker , I see one 26 in barrel youth model in 20ga has a bid of 99.

so
18 inch cylinder bore 12ga 5 in the tube 1 in the chamber 2 3/4 or 3 . back plastic and really thin grey finish almost like Parkerizing in color but just so thin that it is rubbing of in places and I doubt it ever had more than 25 rounds through it.
and it has a touch of rust speckle just from sitting looks like it was in a case and maybe went cold to warm.

they were 149.99 new

so what say you , how much would you give for a working shotgun of this type?

I guess as long as we are on that note , an old single shot break Stevens with a rust speckle all over.
12ga it might have a mod or a full choke.

I would say the Stevens is worth 220 the rip of 870 is 120 the Stevens single shots work really well in survival situations very reliable and they hold therye value you can even buy insert packs that go together so you can shoot 20 ga .410 45 colt 223 556 and .22 lr

I would purchase Blue Book of Gun Values. That what I used when I unloaded a lot of mine. My books to old to help now.

I got to get me one of those cause I want to own a gun store

Not much I buy as few of Chinese products as possible I have seen them sell at our local gun auction for about $60-75

They quit printing the Blue Book so it doesn't exist anymore. The Chi-Com 870 knock off will still bring about $125. The Stevens 12 gauge is going to be tough to move but will eventually bring $60-75.

There is only one answer.

• What someone is willing to pay

Your selection sounds a lot like mine, and mine (a couple dozen) is going right now.
My reasoning is send it to online auction. That makes it (them) available to many buyers all at the same time, and hopefully they will bid against each other for a couple weeks. I am expecting an average of a couple hundred bucks for the everyday el cheapo crap. My guess there is pretty much supported by the previous auction results that I have seen for this company's previous auctions.

Most of my other (non-firearm) stuff went via on line auction and overall, rather than item by item, brought a very decent price.

I'll come crawling back with a huge apology if I'm proven wrong in about 5 weeks.

Got a gun broker link?

this is the adapters kit I was talking about

I don't have any of this stuff on gun broker yet any way , gun broker takes a cut and yes you get a little higher price with a national audience but then you have to take shipping out.
so a 120 dollar gun with 25-30 dollars shipping makes a high bid look like 95-90 and then take some off for gun broker fees looking like 80-85 left

I am helping find buyers

the kids and grandkids had their pick , and I got a few in the will.
If I told her I wanted one of these she wouldn't take my money.

so this is sort of a what to put in the Widows donation fund and tell her it sold

then leave it locked in my toolbox at the farm for when things need getting shot and all I have on me is a pocket pistol.

a Chinese knock off of a 870?
I wouldn't want it if you offered it to me.
seriously.

I have all the guns I need, if one of my boys wanted a shotgun I'd give them the money to buy a decent gun before I'd let them buy a 870 knock off.

I have all I need also , and if it was a for regular use gun I would definitely go better.
I was just thinking for a it might be handy to have in the tool box type of thing.

thinking of it a bit like a Chinese hammer if you have one it won't sell for enough to make it worth while putting in the effort selling it , do you just put it someplace you might use it?

And so, you have a shotgun snob, that can only be seen with his designer gun. There are plenty of folks that know a Hi Point or Boito has its place, and is tremendous if you understand its limitations.

And don't forget that they now send you a 1099 at the end of the year so you get to claim it as "income" now too.

I don't think I am a shotgun "snob" but if I am getting a tactical shotgun for home defense I at least want some quality and dependability. That is the same reason I don't carry a Lorcin or HiPoint as a carry gun. If I ever need it, I want something that will work every time.

Around here the gentleman's credo is any gun which fires properly is a hundred dollar gun minimum.
We ain't much on dickering when it comes to guns at the lower end of the spectrum.

Help her out. Bite the bullet and give a $100 each. Then clean them up and move them on your own. You won't make anything but you will help her out.

Here you might get 40 bucks if your lucky. I do have 1 HI point 9mm in my collection to specifically show my kids the "what not to buy" handgun looks and operates like

Excellent suggestion.
Just because none of us want the el cheapo 's doesn't mean there's not a market for them.

They don't work too bad as duck decoy weights. The single shot 12 gauge would make a fair tomatoe stake.

yup that is basically what I am thinking , the question was 80 90 100 but your right I won't miss the extra 20 that much just go 100.
I don't even know that I will try and sell them , like I said leave one at the farm maybe sell the other.

he had accidental death insurance , probably thought life insurance is life insurance , or expected to go in a motorcycle wreck and not cancer ,

17 days to go for me.

The bids are already coming in; and I'm counting my money.

If it's a decent collection with some good guns in the mix, advertise it far and wide and have an auction. Everything will bring what it's worth....except then you pay a 25% commission. So.....I don't know.

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Hopefully they bring big bucks to offset the income tax you will need to pay on them.

Income tax? what is that?

It sounds like a reason to never earn money.

I don't know about income , if you pay 500 for something in 1995 dollars and you sell it for 500 in 2024 dollars I think you should be getting an income tax credit

I bet if you took it hunting it would kill stuff like the 870 would.

I expect it would , the fit and finish is the biggest issue on these , they are a little rough.

most common complaint is extraction , weak extractor and rough chamber , that is fixed typically with polishing the chamber.

if it runs a couple boxes of shells I have no issue leaving it in my tool box at the farm for what needs shooting

wood chucks are not exactly dangerous game unless your thinking about what they do to foundations they dig under

I'd use my 870 if I needed a "truck gun", it's been used hard for many years and shot lots of stuff. I have another nicer shotgun.

The thing is with cheap guns they never appreciate, the 870 I bought for $135 new, its done nothing but go up in value.
Any decent quality gun will do that while cheap ones never do.

Your Chinese knock off is a perfect example, $150 new and now its up for sale for 1/3 off.

And so, you have a shotgun snob, that can only be seen with his designer gun. There are plenty of folks that know a Hi Point or Boito has its place, and is tremendous if you understand its limitations.[/quote]

Next time speak of something you have knowledge of.

I have 2 shotguns, a mid '70's 870 I bought new and a Benelli 20 ga. both everyday consumer shotguns, hardly "designer" guns.

I guess "designer" is a relative term.

Still have to criticize anything of perceived lesser value

it is actually interesting how little modern self defense pistols hold value

just so many new ones that do it a little better , a little faster , a little easier , with a few more rounds

finding even Glocks , especially anything 40cal , the value is down largely because less desirable and because the PD trade ins set the market price around 350-375 for a used G22 or G23
a G35 will bring 450-475

40 , 10mm , 45 , 357 sig are not holding value very well

9mm is a bit better

but unless it is something special or nothing has changed about them and they are still very desirable like an M9 most personal protection handguns 15 years out even in good shape are worth 60%

a working handgun is much like a working shotgun about 100 dollars if it works to start then it goes up from there

I guess it is a little like a truck that runs and drives down the road is worth 1100-1500

My online gun auction is completed.

Here is my summary from a mix of 18 firearms. Nothing special

• Plain 12 ga pumps Win., Rem., Moss in decent used condition brought $160-$210
• Very good Benelli o/u 20 ga about list
• Beat up hacked/sporterized Military rifles low to mid $100's
• Elcheapo "high power "rifles about the same.
• good deer rifles $500=$800
• .45 cal. self defense pistols $200-$350.
• Old very used bolt& single shot .22 rifles just a bit over $100

thanks for the list

a long way from gun show prices for sure.

I think used guns are something we are starting to see the signs of the economy in

almost off to have shelves full at stores of guns and ammo and prices dropping going into an election in 5 months

the market might actually be saturated.

also people who haven't sold a gun in 50-60 years are passing and their collections are being sold.

Was this before commission? How much was the commission if you don't mind me asking?

Those are "basic" bid amounts.

Buyer pays an additional 10% of bid plus $25/gun transfer

Seller pays 15%.