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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175122
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175123
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Here’s an analytical video that is pretty good…it’s worth a watch…..

https://youtu.be/aVA7aXOH1pk?si=sqGyt-bdcaooL8yY

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: yotetrapper30] #8175128
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
And that brings up another aspect......this explains why the SS snipers behind DT held off too long b4 they shot. They knew there were local LE inside that building....think about that for a minute.


Really, Swamp??? These are trained snipers. From the close up pics of them, I'd bet retired military at least if not special forces. You really think they doubt their ability so much that they're afraid their bullet will go 8 feet low and hit someone inside the building? I think I'd be more afraid of one of my co-workers coming out of the building he didn't know a gunman was on top of and getting blasted.

I forget sometimes that what I post is being read by folks that have little to no knowledge of LE ops. My statement has nothing to do with concern of bullet path.

What I am referring to is that the SS snipers knew other LE were in that building. They likely delayed because of that..thinking how in the heck is a shooter on that building. There was obviously a lack of communication between the officers. That delay was all the shooter needed.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175133
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they use drones for everything else why didn]t they have some flying around in this case?

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175139
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I could see that. Hesitation wondering if that was local L.E. Whatever went wrong heads need to roll. At best that is a ridiculous level of incompetency.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: danny clifton] #8175142
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I could see that. Hesitation wondering if that was local L.E. Whatever went wrong heads need to roll. At best that is a ridiculous level of incompetency.

That's where I'm at.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: danny clifton] #8175150
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I could see that. Hesitation wondering if that was local L.E. Whatever went wrong heads need to roll. At best that is a ridiculous level of incompetency.

Yes..Danny....that's correct.

I try to imagine if I was the counter sniper looking thru my scope at a guy on the roof of a building that I knew LE was inside. My 1st thought would be: what is that officer doing on that roof. Does he see something we don't? The time it took for radio comms after the initial confusion was all the shooter needed to scoot into position and fire.

After the shooter fired his weapon, the counter sniper knew and didn’t hesitate and neutralized the threat.

SS is responsible for the protection of the pres and former pres. It was their duty to ensure all bases were covered by proper pre-planning and coordination, including communications,......whether thru use of their own agents or the use of local LE.

The LE (I'm guessing local LE - city, county, state?) in and around that building that the shooter climbed up on should be hanging their heads in shame....and looking for another job.

Other than the 2 or 3 female SS agents that looked more scared/lost/confused than anyone on scene, it appeared that SS did a pretty good job. They covered DT best they could, moved him to vehicle as fast as DT allowed them to, and the SS snipers neutralized the threat quickly.

Somebody failed....bigtime...in coordination, communication, and security of that building perch!

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175155
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Anyone notice Don Jr the past couple days?

He looks like a guy planning just how to best avenge his father.

Dish best served cold?


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: warrior] #8175159
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Originally Posted by warrior
Anyone notice Don Jr the past couple days?

He looks like a guy planning just how to best avenge his father.

Dish best served cold?

Yes...he should run for president next....

He'd get my vote.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175171
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May not Be everyone's type of music but Tom sums it up.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175172
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175173
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: salemtrapper] #8175184
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Originally Posted by salemtrapper



This was in one of my feeds today. Not bad at all especially as fast as he put it together.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Providence Farm] #8175189
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by salemtrapper



This was in one of my feeds today. Not bad at all especially as fast as he put it together.

I'm not a rap music fan, but that guy nailed it!


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175197
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Guess I over looked that swamp sorry

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175198
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175205
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^^^^^^

If anyone ever has a chance to go to any of his courses go. It’s worth every dime


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175211
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I'm not a rap guy either Swamp but Tom has some very good stuff and gets a good message out to the demographic that is into rap that would never get it otherwise. The guy is a Canadian and more patriotic than 90% of Americans. His appearance I'd hard to get past for some but he is a smart and very successful business man as well.

The system is a good one if I got the name right. Guess I will have to go back and see what his song names are.

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175213
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8175219
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If you've seen the video of this large group of LE, flummoxed by a simple fence, who couldn't figure out HOW to.get to the other side, well, its beyond sad. Much less having a PLAN beforehand.

No one climbed it, no.one boosted anyone over it, the attempt to ram it with a police vehicle, never exceeded 2 mpg.
And multiple attempts at that...

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