Nope, teetotaling Southern Baptists. Had to figure that one out all on my own.

Now that I think of it I am aware of examples in history where slave owners would allow trusted slaves to be armed.

It's all good. I tried reading GA's convoluted laws, lol, but I couldn't find anything about minors and long guns, only handguns. All I could find was an anti-gun website that stated there was no minimum age to possess long guns in GA.

So, if it's federally legal, and also legal in the state, what right do they have to arrest the father? I didn't think being stupid was a crime.

I don't know, it might not hold up in front of a judge. What exactly was he charged with? I know for the deaths four counts second degree. I need to study up on that but I believe that is death due to negligence not intent. Arguing that he was negligent in giving the gun to a known risk?

I do know that Georgia prosecutes almost all deaths from car accidents where the surviving driver did something wrong. So they take negligence pretty seriously here.

I thought the FBI cleared that kid of making threats. Why should his father be held responsible? Why isn't the FBI responsible?

Or maybe the FBI did something else with it? At this point anything is plausible.

All you folks thinking the dad should be charged because he let his kid use a gun, I guess you wait until yours turn 21 before they go hunting.

I'm thinking if he abused the child and/or was negligent to the point that he didn't get the boy help and then gave the boy a gun then hang him.

The one key fact all y'all are not taking into consideration is the Dad was fully aware that the boy wanted to shoot up a school a year ago.

So any of y'all willing to pour drinks for a known drunk driver?

Was he? The FBI said the kid wasn't a threat.

Do you trust the FBI?

Obviously, they guessed wrong.

Aside from the gun, and I'm fully on board with being concerned that gun owning parents could get unjustly targeted, we have to admit that in our society today parents are turning out monsters.

If it's not school shootings it's drugs, perversion, and general antisocial behaviors.

But undoubtedly the powers that be would use that concern to target the parents doing it right.

Adam Lanza's (Sandy Hook shooter) mother knew he was a fruitcake and she had guns in the house. It cost her life and a bunch more.

I know a Jamacian guy I used to work with who refused to own a gun. He said could not trust his kid. I told to get a locked gun safe. He said , no , kid would find the key. I suggested one with a keypad combination lock , he said , no ,the kid would find a way to get in that too. He said , you don't know my kid.

No gun in that house.
Major respect for the father , he knew what he was dealing with.

Good on him. I just hate to see people automatically jump on the "lock up the parents" bus before the facts come out.

The father willingly gave his son the gun used to murder 2 children and 2 teachers as a Christmas present in THE SAME year that the Federal Bureau of Investigation came to the house investigating claims of the kid threatening to shoot up a school.

He is an accessory to murder. He supplied a weapon to a kid who already threatened a school shooting at 13 years old. Who in their right mind would think that is a good idea? The kid couldn't legally buy that gun anywhere in this country, it should have never been in his possession.

It's the same thing as them charging drug dealers for murder who sell fentanyl laced drugs that lead to OD deaths. They are supplying a dangerous (thing) to someone else that results in loss of life. Although they didn't physically cause the death, their initial contributions to the scenario is what led to the death.

This isn't about taking away gun rights, this is about punishing those who cannot commit to gun safety (i.e. supplying a minor with an AR-15 while knowing his earlier threats). You should be mad as (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) with this father. This conversation would *probably* not be happening had he not bought his son that gun

All you defending the father, just think about this. If your child, husband, wife, friends, or family were murdered by an unhinged 14 year old with a gun that was bought as a Christmas present, by his father, with the knowledge that his son had already threatened to shoot up a school... Would you not demand justice and punishment?

No one on here wants to see these guns outlawed and rights taken away. But when you have situations like this, we are literally one bad apple away from that happening. These irresponsible people deserve punishment to the fullest extent of the law. It's nuts that there are so many responsible gun owners and you have isolated instances like this stoking the flames to take away the rights of the responsible.

Could the kid have still committed the shooting with another gun? Sure. But that's not what happened.

Here's to hoping the father has a weak grip and can't hold onto the soap.

Easy now. I understand where these guys are coming from. I fear my govt, too, and don't trust the media either.

I don't fault anyone who questions anything. I encourage everyone to question everything.

But in this case if all I'm reading is indeed correct the dad carries much of the responsibility along with the son.

Hopefully this won't put a target on gunowners backs or bring down needless regulation. But I do think we are long overdue a conversation on what to do with the breeders that are turning out monsters. It won't be an easy discussion either. And as in most things today it goes back to "progressive" ideas that have torn down all the guard rails.

you must have inside info. all I see is the FBI an Local law looked into the kid and had nothing said no threat.

you have no idea what the dad thought or believed and are reacting emotionally and with speculation. I don't know what he knew or didn't know either.

BUT while your clapping and chearing for him to be hung at least keep in mind the anti gun people don't care how many kids get killed or how many shooting happen they just want us disarmed and by any means necessary.

maybe this guy needs to be in trouble maybe not . But when you can't get your kids guns it WILL be used against all of us. and when you are not geting and around guns at a young age you get less people with fond child memories and less passion for their 2nd amendment rights.

don't fall victim to knee jerk emotional reactions.

The father bought the kid a gun after knowing he made online threats, and was consequentially investigated for said threats with FBI involvement in May of 2023. Nothing was done, the father said the kid had no unsupervised access, they decided to sit back and keep an eye on the kid. Fast forward 7 months: "Here son, Merry Christmas. I know you were investigated for threatening to shoot up a school, and nothing really became of it, but I went out and got you this AR-15. Please be careful with it."

That is a major lapse in judgement. A major lapse in judgement that cost 4 innocent lives. It's indefensible. He supplied a firearm to a person who had a known risk of threats of violence with get this.... A firearm. I don't have any insider information. What I have is empathy for the innocent, and hatred for the aggressors and enablers.

You have about 5 or 6 of these AR shooters every year pull a stunt like this. Those 5 or 6 people are going to eventually wipe out the rights of millions.

Whether you agree with it or not, the father is going to go down. The charges are gonna stick like stink on Providence Farm after a 16 hour shift.


I do not think the father believed his son posed a serious threat. But the threat was real, the threat was made, and yet he stilled gifted him a weapon 7 months later. He holds responsibility and thus deserves punishment.

Guess we’ll be rounding up all the fathers that abandoned children that turned to a life of crime or fathers that didn’t discipline them.

How many generations would it take to get rid of guns altogether if they are scared out of the hands of our youth?

father bought the gun, and has been arrested