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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8177877
07/20/24 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Here in the northern boreal wetlands,most of the time after a spot has been cleaned out and some activity is noticed after a couple of years it is a pair of beaver from the current year paired up.
Occasionally a whole colony can move in to a new spot that has been dead for a while but this is not common.
In some cases a pair of beaver or even a whole established colony can be taken out of a spot on a drainage,and as soon as the adjacent colony notices territorial castor mounds not being maintained they move in pretty quick to maintain water levels upstream or claim a feed source.I often see this on a creek or lake on traplines that are vacant and not trapped in fall and winter,where beaver populations are too high.
On traplines that are trapped fall winter and spring,nuisance issues are rare and when they show up it is invariably a pair.
Not the case on unmanaged zones.

That makes sense. I don’t think the 2 drainages are regularly trapped, maybe John…Mbcoonguy might hit it the odd year cuz I believe he kinda goes in any direction from Winnipeg every year. These spots are regularly flowing so I don’t think many would come from upstream to re dam. But after I got an adult male & female I figured that was it. A week later I went to pull and there’s a huge female breeder in a 330. No maintenance done to the removed dams. That kinda shook my confidence and I started thinking there could be more. Kits for sure. Maybe it kicked out the others and let the 2 adults stay along with the kits? Generally isn’t it the breeding pair, a couple adults and the kits? Probably way too many variables to pin point a number, feed, competition, predators. This is the spot where I saw a wolf right behind a little fawn that came out of the bush 15yds from me too. No action on a cam I had set up either.

Do you thin the otter yourself with a flesher on a beam after the pickle? They’re super thick.

Well, I got everything cleaned up, bags packed and we’re off to the Black Hills tomorrow morning, then the convention in Sioux Falls. Should be good.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8177906
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Have fun on your holidays Jake.
Overpopulated beaver can move any time if their feed is tapped out,but usually this is after ice out.
In a healthy population the 2 year olds(sometimes one year olds also) leave their home colony.travel and leave scent mounds all along flat banks looking to pair up and establish a territory.A pair of these beaver often set up in marginal locations during the summer,but once september rains start they often move looking for a permanent overwintering area with enough feed to cach to get them thru winter.During very dry summers beaver often abandon a pond and head into the nearest river or lake.In september when the rains come these beaver move back into the creeks and bush run off and prepare for winter.
Newly paired beaver from spring breed under ice in February.and have their litter in early June or late may.
Beaver colonys expand their territory whenever they can,which is why you see beaver move in to a trapped out nuisance spot.Beaver mark their territorial castor mounds after rain to cover up the other beavers scent.if there is nothing to cover they know its open territory and will move in.
Nothing is writtwn in stone however.in places where there is an unlimited supply of feed like cat tail beaver colonys can live close together and share a feed source.
Sometimes I will thin tanned hides on the beam with a spokeshave if there are thick spots in the neck etc.But not too often this is needed.You can do this during the pickle,or even after the skin is finished.
Mostly I thin any hides down by frostscraping either when fresh or after tanning.
The otter |i tan are small ones,I send large otter to Winnipeg with large beaver.
I have tanned large otters and beavers and frostscraped the leather real thin and uniform by frostscraping after tanning.
All you do is wet the tanned skin on the leather side only like you are going to block it,then put it out to freeze.either stretched open or on a forming board if cased.Tanned hides are easy to thin by frostscraping and finish is the same as factory tanned.And no bloom to sand.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8178460
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Originally Posted by Boco
A couple pics of the current nuisance beaver jobs

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Fresh wolf scat by both locations,should be wrapped up pretty quick.


Took out two more beaver at these spots last night.The 2 females.One was bred one not.
One more trip out there to break the dams and this contract will be closed.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8184070
07/29/24 08:37 AM
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I guess you break the dam enough to get the water dropping and they come to finish? Around here, if nobody traps them they hire a track hoe to clean it out, a hydro pole is used to jam into the culvert if needed to punch the plug through. On occasion, that gets suction stuck inside the culvert too…lol.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Shakeyjake] #8184206
07/29/24 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
I guess you break the dam enough to get the water dropping and they come to finish? Around here, if nobody traps them they hire a track hoe to clean it out, a hydro pole is used to jam into the culvert if needed to punch the plug through. On occasion, that gets suction stuck inside the culvert too…lol.

No,I take them right down to natural flow.Same as I did all the years on the RR.
Under the council contracts breaking the dam is by mutual agreement between the complainant and the trapper.
Most will pay the trapper to remove the dam.Trapper can refuse to do that work if he deems it too dangerous,like a small culvert holding back a lot of water(deep) that can only be opened from going in.
I never refuse to open a dam to natural flow.I have refused a couple small culverts like explained above,but only because I work alone.I opened lots of those on the Railroad since I had a helper.
OPG(Hydro) union did not want the trapper to do it-claimed it was their work.Stopped the company from getting the trapper to do it.
It is illegal in Ontario for anyone to break a beaver dam without having the beaver removed first.Exception being an urgent case where public is in danger.
Also illegal under federal law(fisheries and oceans) to let large amounts of water go downstream.Fines are extremely heavy for companies or individuals doing that if they get caught.have to let large amounts of water go a little at a time over an extended period of time according to the fisheries and oceans requirements.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8208506
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Skinny beaver tail.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8209060
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You know what they say about a beaver with a long skinny tail eh? Same as a guy with big feet…..good balance.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8211210
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Since I had the Bonis fired up for repairing and blocking beaver pelts I decided to put together a pair of black wolf mitts with Light Tawney Wolf trim and moosehide palms.
Good way to salvage a couple of damaged pelts from last year.
Should be able to get two more pairs of gauntlets out of those and some pieces for trim on beaver mitts,parka hoods etc.

A work in progress still got to put the fringes on and linings.An hour or so a day for a few days start to finish,not counting the snaring skinning and tanning,lol.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8211258
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Boco you keep any of those beaver pelts this early in the game?

Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: backroadsarcher] #8211292
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
Boco you keep any of those beaver pelts this early in the game?

I dont skin them,just tale the castor and either give to an elder for meat otr take to the line to feed the snimals.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8211814
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What do you do with your tails?

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8211987
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I will chop some up occasionally and taint in a black garbage bag in a 5 gallon bucket in a heated garage for castbait at jackpots,but usually leave them on the carcasses that I use for bait or give away to elders.

If you meant the wolf tails I use them on hats or for hood trim.
Kulatuks always have fox or wolf tails for trim on the hoods.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8212049
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Yea beaver. Had a buyer for them, but he dropped off the face of the earth. I bought a beaver tail wallet off him last year. So I chopped most of them up and got some nice dark oil bottled now. Have another 5 gallon pail full that I chopped up a few weeks ago. Oil should be GTG next fall.
I made a key chain out of the one wolf tail I had, too big for a key chain but I’ll hang it somewhere.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8212557
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Whipped up another pair of cold weather ski doo mitts this evening.
Black beaver with moosehide palms and black wolf snowcuffs

No liners yet.
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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8212882
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Those are nice. Do you sell those?


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8212934
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I do sell fur articles Larry,unfortunately it is a big hassel shipping fur across the border,so I stick to mostly local sales.
I dont have a big inventory made up mostly just make stuff as ordered by local people.I take orders and make stuff when I have spare time.I have a fair backlog,but I let people know that when they want something made up.
I try to keep some stuff on hand to take to events so people can see what I make.
Fur articles here sell pretty fast though.
Not much to do here unless its outdoor related so a good market by ice fishermen snowmobilers etc.
Another good local market is older people who do a lot of walking around town to stay healthy. In winter they like nice warm fur hats mitts and hood trim.Fur makes it very comfortable being outdoors on those really cold bright sunny winter days.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8213160
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Food is NEVER a problem here for beaver. They will move (this time of year) up or down our creeks and set up a mailbox adjacent to the closest corn field. Dams are made out of and bank dens are covered with stalks. So food is not an issue in the eastern part of the cornhusker state. I once caught 40 beaver within a 3 mile radius of my farm here as the colonies just kept producing (assume some were travelers too). .................the mike

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