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Hard to Believe!! #8230959
10/07/24 04:53 PM
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elsmasho82 Offline OP
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Just goes to show how little some people know about traps and trapping;

I was having a conversation with my good friend and her husband about deer hunting.
He is an accomplished archer and there is no questioning his ethics! Eventually, I mentioned that I would like to get my deer early so I can focus on trapping; which is well aware I am involved with.
He mentioned “as an animal lover, I am surprised you continue to trap, seeing that it is somewhat controversial these days”
At this point I mentioned the many advancements made in traps themselves and the laws that require frequent checks. showed him pictures of traps in the open and closed position and how I have released non targets unharmed. Directed him to the video by FTA Trappers in Todays world.


Here’s the big surprise; this mid 30’s outdoorsman still thought that most all traps have Teeth and are look like they do in cartoons!
I was happy I was able to enlighten him just a tad!

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230964
10/07/24 05:00 PM
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Good job, that should be an eye opener to all of us.


Steve
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Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230965
10/07/24 05:00 PM
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Our worst enemy . The uninformed.

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230967
10/07/24 05:02 PM
10/07/24 05:02 PM
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Montana ,Rocky Mtns.
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Good job, Ashley .

Just because someone can pilot a fixed wing doesn't mean they can fly a chopper at all.....

Youd think theyd know better, but the subjects are too diverse unless directed focus in learning is applied.

Well done. You are a teacher in the least expected times.

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230971
10/07/24 05:04 PM
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It's not hard for me to believe. There are lot's of uninformed/misinformed folks that have only heard one side of the story, the anti's and the media's side, one in the same? There are many hunters in that group.

The antis do a much better job of getting their message across than we do.


Eh...wot?

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230972
10/07/24 05:06 PM
10/07/24 05:06 PM
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So he can’t apply what he’s doing to what you’re doing he’s not a deep thinker.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230975
10/07/24 05:11 PM
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We had traps destroyed by big game hunters in Wyoming. It's okay for them but not for us.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230978
10/07/24 05:14 PM
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Almost all the movies made showing trapping, especially the horror ones, show only traps with teeth, just like the cartoons do. They mostly show huge amounts of gore and broken bones on whatever is trapped too, especially people.

Keith

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230979
10/07/24 05:14 PM
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I hope he comes around.

Good Job SmashO'


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Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230983
10/07/24 05:17 PM
10/07/24 05:17 PM

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Before speaking with you yesterday I had just watched a video of a coyote pretty beat up from trying to get away from a hand trap. Which is why when we were messaging I mentioned I wished cage trapping was more convenient. BUT I realized getting to the traps in a reasonable time is very important.
So, for my own knowledge how do I respond appropriately to this question? Was this trap a - trap or could the yote been on there too long? Adrenaline is heck* of a drg, so I can see that having an impact on pain tolerance for the animals. Thank you for being patient with my "newby questions"!

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230986
10/07/24 05:20 PM
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Every libtard I've come across thinks our traps cut the legs off the animals we pursue

I've had to stick my hand in one several different times to prove otherwise


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Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230990
10/07/24 05:25 PM
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Wait, what was that? Admin, do I need to edit my comment? De ar yu gee?

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230991
10/07/24 05:26 PM
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I edited. Apologizes, Sir

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: ] #8230994
10/07/24 05:30 PM
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elsmasho82 Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Mrs Langley
Before speaking with you yesterday I had just watched a video of a coyote pretty beat up from trying to get away from a hand trap. Which is why when we were messaging I mentioned I wished cage trapping was more convenient. BUT I realized getting to the traps in a reasonable time is very important.
So, for my own knowledge how do I respond appropriately to this question? Was this trap a claw trap or could the yote been on there too long? Adrenaline is heck* of a drg, so I can see that having an impact on pain tolerance for the animals. Thank you for being patient with my "newby questions"!



Go to the Furtakers of America website or their YouTube page and do watch the videos Destroying the Myth and Trapping in todays world.
Those can be your answers!
You will get more confidence after a while when it comes to defending trapping.
FTA has a great bumper sticker that basically says trapping helps protect pets.
That is a winning topic for us.
Trapping reduces suffering and disease for wildlife, and makes wise use (conservation) of our natural resources.

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8230998
10/07/24 05:33 PM
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elsmasho82 Offline OP
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Dry firing a trap is much more scary than accidentally getting your hand caught in one while bedding it. Much louder and intense. It isn’t painful.
Coon creek outdoors on YouTube has a great video of him sticking his hand in traps to make a point. That’s what the vid is called. It’s mostly offset jaws vs closed jaws but at the end he sticks his bare hands into a big foothold trap. Several times

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8231000
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
Dry firing a trap is much more scary than accidentally getting your hand caught in one while bedding it. Much louder and intense. It isn’t painful.
Coon creek outdoors on YouTube has a great video of him sticking his hand in traps to make a point. That’s what the vid is called. It’s mostly offset jaws vs closed jaws but at the end he sticks his bare hands into a big foothold trap. Several times



I think a 1.5 Duke snaps may hand harder than #5 Bridger. been snapped in every thing in between and a 220.

so far not a 330 or mb 750 and I'm glad about that.

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8231001
10/07/24 05:39 PM
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Good job Smash! Educate them on the truth one at a time.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: 330-Trapper] #8231002
10/07/24 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I hope he comes around.

Good Job SmashO'



Thanks Scott! He isn’t Anti he just really wasn’t informed! At least he was open and honest with his questions and it led somewhere.

Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: elsmasho82] #8231004
10/07/24 05:40 PM
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Gotcha, thanks
aw, yes, already a sub of his. Guess I need to catch up.

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Re: Hard to Believe!! [Re: 160user] #8231005
10/07/24 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 160user
Good job Smash! Educate them on the truth one at a time.


Every little bit helps, right buddy?!
grin

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