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Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8251246
11/01/24 09:44 PM
11/01/24 09:44 PM
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Welcome back, Len. Looks like you might need a bigger boat!


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252089
11/02/24 10:54 PM
11/02/24 10:54 PM
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Moved to Fbks, Ak.
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Awesome to see you back. Who'd of thunk a teacher would end up a horn buyer. Bringing money to western Alaska. Will you be using the area you used to? Somewhere around KSM?
Looking forward to your adventures!

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252097
11/02/24 11:20 PM
11/02/24 11:20 PM
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Curious to hear about those moose antlers and that potential WR!

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: smalltimetrapper] #8252119
11/03/24 03:26 AM
11/03/24 03:26 AM
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Homer, Alaska
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Yes I was able to broker the new world record shed set and single. It was found in unit 18 in December 2022 side by side.
I was not able to get my hands on it until March. Photos had not done it justice. The thing was gargantuan.
I took it to Alpine Wyoming in June of 2023. The bidding didn’t start until it was officially scored. The bidding came down to two different bidders. The winning bid was over $20,000
The left side antler is the world record single. Score 97 3/8
I have been responsible for putting quite a few in the record books in the last 5 years. Many of them nontypical moose. I work with my shed hunters. If they find trophies. I broker them for them the best I can.

[Linked Image]

Last edited by Family Trapper; 11/03/24 03:28 AM.
Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252207
11/03/24 06:55 AM
11/03/24 06:55 AM
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Northern Maine
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Originally Posted by Family Trapper
Yes I was able to broker the new world record shed set and single. It was found in unit 18 in December 2022 side by side.
I was not able to get my hands on it until March. Photos had not done it justice. The thing was gargantuan.
I took it to Alpine Wyoming in June of 2023. The bidding didn’t start until it was officially scored. The bidding came down to two different bidders. The winning bid was over $20,000
The left side antler is the world record single. Score 97 3/8
I have been responsible for putting quite a few in the record books in the last 5 years. Many of them nontypical moose. I work with my shed hunters. If they find trophies. I broker them for them the best I can.

[Linked Image]

Awesome.Congrats


Nevada or Kansas bound 2026
Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252336
11/03/24 09:56 AM
11/03/24 09:56 AM
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MT (Big Sky Country)
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WOW now that's impressive to say the least ! Good for you to share the wealth !

Allan


Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252371
11/03/24 10:50 AM
11/03/24 10:50 AM
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Fairbanks, Alaska
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That was (is!) an amazing bull! Wonder how old he is?

Pete

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252391
11/03/24 11:17 AM
11/03/24 11:17 AM
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Montana ,Rocky Mtns.
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Dang....I can just imagine the beastie strolling with swag , sporting those antlers...

Those inspire me to draw them on a big bull , sometime.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8252654
11/03/24 04:02 PM
11/03/24 04:02 PM
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Alaska and Washington State
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Originally Posted by Family Trapper
Yes I was able to broker the new world record shed set and single. It was found in unit 18 in December 2022 side by side.
I was not able to get my hands on it until March. Photos had not done it justice. The thing was gargantuan.
I took it to Alpine Wyoming in June of 2023. The bidding didn’t start until it was officially scored. The bidding came down to two different bidders. The winning bid was over $20,000
The left side antler is the world record single. Score 97 3/8
I have been responsible for putting quite a few in the record books in the last 5 years. Many of them nontypical moose. I work with my shed hunters. If they find trophies. I broker them for them the best I can.

[Linked Image]

So much for the number of brow-tines meaning anything. Amazing set of antlers.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8253159
11/04/24 01:05 AM
11/04/24 01:05 AM
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Homer, Alaska
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One of the bummer parts to this process was I had it score two inches higher. Approx. give or take a few 1/8s.
Which amazed me. Due to the shape of the antlers there was definitely some judgements calls. It was not really straightforward due to the curve of the paddle.
When it was all said and done the official scorer called this brow time nontypical. Costing me a point. As well as a point I had given for it. Meaning had it not been a nontypical I was spot on.

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Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8253162
11/04/24 01:13 AM
11/04/24 01:13 AM
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Western AK sure is pumping out giants.

Bummer about the score system. B&C has always perplexed me in deducting an animal for antler growth.

In my opinion, a random point on a mostly typical animal should just not be counted towards net. For instance a 4 X 4 70" moose that scores 240" but it had a small 3" kicker brow tine on one of the brows (like yours) is now 237"

It's still a 240" moose with extra growth outside of the typical frame.

I don't make the rules, but it's silly.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Alder] #8253174
11/04/24 02:29 AM
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Homer, Alaska
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Originally Posted by Alder
For instance a 4 X 4 70" moose that scores 240" but it had a small 3" kicker brow tine on one of the brows (like yours) is now 237"

It's still a 240" moose with extra growth outside of the typical frame.

I don't make the rules, but it's silly.


B&C only deducts a point per tine. No inches measured as SCI.
Ya it should get extra points if it has them! somehow give credit for extra growth. ;0)
But they love their symmetrical adherence.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8253277
11/04/24 08:38 AM
11/04/24 08:38 AM
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Armpit, ak
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Be careful out there Len. It ain't like we are young anymore. You didn't miss much the last 5 years. Pale marten struggled and found record low prices at Auction, It is getting better, so if you catch pales like you used to you shouldn't be really disappointed.

Good Luck!

P.S. Junked out two late 80's Bravos and snagged two better bodies out of the boneyard and made two rebuilt ones this fall. The dents had dents and the patches had patches on those 30 plus year old trapping machines. smile


Who is John Galt?
Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8253472
11/04/24 01:57 PM
11/04/24 01:57 PM
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FT - glad you are back. I had always enjoyed following your adventures.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8257970
11/09/24 12:55 PM
11/09/24 12:55 PM
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SW Alaska
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Welcome back Len trying to spend a little more time on here myself these days


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Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8260562
11/12/24 05:17 PM
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To officially score, BC, the antlers still had to be attached to the skull? The pic shows the antlers removed from the skull. Apparently you sold them that way?
Do the rules regarding sale of wildlife parts in the state an animal was harvested in apply in other states.
I bought and sold wildlife parts for several years and have wondered about laws following a part outside of the state it was harvested in. You, Len, got me started in that business.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8261165
11/13/24 11:48 AM
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Anchorage, Alaska
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Len were you able to drive the boat loaded down with antlers like that?

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: broncoformudv] #8262320
11/15/24 03:28 AM
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Homer, Alaska
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Originally Posted by broncoformudv
Len were you able to drive the boat loaded down with antlers like that?


Twice a year. fall and spring I load it about like that. Slows me down but can still get on step. I start about 100 miles away and load as I go. That load had to still be run about 50 miles.

Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: martentrapper] #8262323
11/15/24 03:36 AM
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Homer, Alaska
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
To officially score, BC, the antlers still had to be attached to the skull? The pic shows the antlers removed from the skull. Apparently you sold them that way?
Do the rules regarding sale of wildlife parts in the state an animal was harvested in apply in other states.
I bought and sold wildlife parts for several years and have wondered about laws following a part outside of the state it was harvested in. You, Len, got me started in that business.


The shed record books uses the same rules as the B&C records. Shed Records have set up their own nontypical moose recording method.
I do not know about rule following. I know if I bring an attached set of antlers to sell in Wyoming I have to have them sealed. I have not done that yet. But Alaska has begun issuing permits to sell trophys. There is an application and it has to be in the state of being able to display. A rack with a skull needs to be ready to hang on the wall for example. So it is doable. Word is there trying to get rid of the process all together allowing the sale of antlers on a skull.
I will attached a few photos of the large nontypicals I have brokered. [Linked Image]

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/Ni8tym1rXlk?si=uYT1wVWd1kMWnl5s[/video]



This shed was the world record nontypical a few years ago. But believe it fell to #3 now.
[Linked Image]



Re: Return of Family Trapper [Re: Family Trapper] #8262332
11/15/24 04:27 AM
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Homer, Alaska
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