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Re: 2A [Re: stinkypete] #8256017
11/06/24 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
But first these 2[Linked Image]

Yep


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Re: 2A [Re: Macthediver] #8256043
11/06/24 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Macthediver
I'm wondering if all the people who hoarded high price ammo. Did the value of that just drop? I got two guns sitting here in the box I guess I should have sold couple months ago..
Dang I never was good at guessing the flipping things.

Mac

"Never Forget Which Way Is Up!"

What I paid for my "high price" ammo, I can barely buy a couple week's worth of groceries today. I think I did alright.

Re: 2A [Re: 52Carl] #8256076
11/06/24 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by Macthediver
I'm wondering if all the people who hoarded high price ammo. Did the value of that just drop? I got two guns sitting here in the box I guess I should have sold couple months ago..
Dang I never was good at guessing the flipping things.

Mac

"Never Forget Which Way Is Up!"

What I paid for my "high price" ammo, I can barely buy a couple week's worth of groceries today. I think I did alright.

the crazy part is even last week ammo was normal priced and well stocked.
any common ammo was in stock and normal price

online you could order on better prices yet , if you ordered a few months ago even get a free shipping deal.

was trying to sell guns from an estate all summer , hard market not a lot of buyers , you were as likely to walk into a shop and have a guy trying to sell them a gun.

people are broke buying groceries , hanging on to every dollar they could waiting for the other shoe to drop.

businesses going bankrupt , factories on big slow downs and hiring freezes

overtime drying up in lots of industries

the places working OT right now are truck shops trying to keep trucks on the road for more miles because no one can buy a new Kenworth or Peterbilt right now , just how do they get more miles out of this one.

my youngest worked at a campground , they were full 1 weekend all summer and had really good weather , people can't afford as many vacations. The previous year they were full most weekends.

That is part of why trump won , people are NOT HAPPY with the economy


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256181
11/07/24 06:19 AM
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This is what Trump is going to do. Not as much as I want, lots more than many people want. Probably about as much as courts and legislature will allow.




Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256234
11/07/24 07:51 AM
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Good video.

Trump promises to fire the ATF director on his first day.

He promises to undo Bidens's executive orders the first week.

Vance stated they would dismantle the ATF.

Hold them accountable.

BC--Long time GOA member

Re: 2A [Re: Steven 49er] #8256243
11/07/24 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Can I at least get the Hearing Protection Act this time?


Maybe, how much effort, time and money are you willing to put in it. Or are you like every other trapp that wants things passed but don't get off the couch?


What effort is required if the President said he would protect and restore the 2A--over 8 years ago? Write him letters asking him to not make stupid comments about suppressors--like he did?

Are waiters supposed to do something to make him fulfill his stupid promise not to tax tips?

Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256252
11/07/24 08:04 AM
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You, should write your congressman immediately. You should call your senator non-stop.

Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256339
11/07/24 10:09 AM
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People that didn't support but bad mouthed Trump at every turn now want him to do their bidding right now. Typical.

Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256362
11/07/24 10:36 AM
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BC,

did you help Trump GET elected?

perhaps wrote a check, worked a phone bank, knocked on doors...

if you didn't do those things for Trump, I'm sure you did them for your selected Candidate. who was that again?

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Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256367
11/07/24 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
What effort is required if the President said he would protect and restore the 2A--over 8 years ago? Write him letters asking him to not make stupid comments about suppressors--like he did?

Are waiters supposed to do something to make him fulfill his stupid promise not to tax tips?


in other words, you want him to be a Dictator.

many of the things you want require Congressional action. You know that. The Gun Control Act of 1968, etc. would have to be revamped, etc.

Your beef is with Chuck Schumer...bark up that tree for awhile.

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Re: 2A [Re: Leftlane] #8256417
11/07/24 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
The dead in Bengazi and the military equipment and allies left for the Taliban in Afghanistan- I assume you are referring to ppl being held accountable for those blunders right? grin

Good point. It probably got swept under the rug like Biden and his border czar tried to do.


If someone tears down the American flag and puts another flag in its place, that person should get a free, mandatory one way trip to that country.
Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256583
11/07/24 04:56 PM
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hard to believe a grown man would stomp his feet and demand instant satisfaction like a three year old toddler does, but here we are...

Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256587
11/07/24 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Congrats to Trump and his supporters.

When can we expect the dismantling of the ATF?

When can I buy a full auto off the shelf? Same for suppressors, SBRs and grenade launchers.

I read a lot of 2A talk on here from the Trump supporters. Ready to see it.



could you at LEAST wait until he takes office???

[what a "Karen"!]

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Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256598
11/07/24 05:18 PM
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

militia
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.

army
1. A large body of people organized and trained for land warfare.
2. The entire military land forces of a country.
3. A tactical and administrative military unit consisting of a headquarters, two or more corps, and auxiliary forces.

infringe
1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate.
2. To defeat; invalidate.
3. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing.

ol' dad

Re: 2A [Re: ol' dad] #8256627
11/07/24 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

militia
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.

army
1. A large body of people organized and trained for land warfare.
2. The entire military land forces of a country.
3. A tactical and administrative military unit consisting of a headquarters, two or more corps, and auxiliary forces.

infringe
1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate.
2. To defeat; invalidate.
3. To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing.

ol' dad

Really is a waste of time defining any the before 2nd comma. That part of the se gen d just explains why the right to hear arms shall not be infringed. It does not put limits on the right

Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256634
11/07/24 06:09 PM
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Nope, this isn't political.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256788
11/07/24 09:13 PM
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I’ve asked this before on here, not sure I got an answer.

What about the “well regulated” part?

I’m 100% pro 2A and Trump, so spare me those replies.
I’ve always wondered about that “well regulated” part, can or will that be used against us?


I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
Re: 2A [Re: Average Joe] #8256831
11/07/24 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Average Joe
I’ve asked this before on here, not sure I got an answer.

What about the “well regulated” part?

I’m 100% pro 2A and Trump, so spare me those replies.
I’ve always wondered about that “well regulated” part, can or will that be used against us?


Different meanings 18th century vs 21st.

21st regulated as in regulations or laws
18th regulated as in well timed or trained

That's why the recent Bruen decision specifically says "text and tradition". The beauty of that ruling isn't just as it applies to 2A but for the whole Constitution. Text and tradition clearly says the whole document should be read today as it was written with the understanding of what the words meant at the time it was written not what they may have become today.


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Re: 2A [Re: Blaine County] #8256841
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Originally Posted by Blaine County

What effort is required if the President said he would protect and restore the 2A--over 8 years ago? Write him letters asking him to not make stupid comments about suppressors--like he did?

Are waiters supposed to do something to make him fulfill his stupid promise not to tax tips?


Do we need to have a civics lesson on how the three legislative branches work and how to pass legislation?


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: 2A [Re: warrior] #8256843
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Average Joe
I’ve asked this before on here, not sure I got an answer.

What about the “well regulated” part?

I’m 100% pro 2A and Trump, so spare me those replies.
I’ve always wondered about that “well regulated” part, can or will that be used against us?


Different meanings 18th century vs 21st.

21st regulated as in regulations or laws
18th regulated as in well timed or trained

That's why the recent Bruen decision specifically says "text and tradition". The beauty of that ruling isn't just as it applies to 2A but for the whole Constitution. Text and tradition clearly says the whole document should be read today as it was written with the understanding of what the words meant at the time it was written not what they may have become today.



Thanks Warrior, makes sense


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