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Cable Restraints? #8265117
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So I bought a couple CR's an I was wondering how do you set them exactly. I can't find any good video's on YouTube that explains it properly. I think maybe the problem is I don't know how it even works, if you know what I mean. Please advise. TIA


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Are you asking about loop heights of his to support th3e snares

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Type in " coyote snaring". About 50 videos comeup.

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Actually found a good vid. But I can't fine strong enough wire.


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Re: Cable Restraints? [Re: Pofarmer10] #8265458
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Originally Posted by Pofarmer10


Not a good video on it IMO. It'll catch a fox probably but you won't catch many coyotes if you set yourself on the ground in the trail and put all that extra blocking in. You need to dedicate a few rebar stakes to using them for your cable restraints. Pigtail and weld some black annealed #9 wire (NOT GALVANIZED) to the top them and use them to anchor and support your CR's. Put them in trails with the coyote tracks, but sneak in from the side, stay off the trail, put your cable restraint swivel on the stake and drive the stake in the ground 3-6 off the side of the trail, find a spot that is naturally tight with grasses and weeds, make your loop at least 10", 12" is better, and set it at least 10" off the ground to the bottom of the loop, again 12" is better using the support collar to hold the snare on the #9 wire. Get in and get out. Set as many as you can, then the next day set more, and so on. Once you have out 100 or two, you'll catch enough to make it real fun. It's a numbers game, more sets = more catches.

You can get that #9 at any farm supply place. https://www.theisens.com/products/garden-zone-annealed-wire-9-ga-10-lb-roll

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Originally Posted by Pofarmer10
Actually found a good vid. But I can't fine strong enough wire.

you're not gonna find it locally. Get 9 gauge wire from a trap supplier

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Go to your local farm store and look for some fence wire.
The wire from all those political signs will work.


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I disagree Wolfie. He's selling supports, and adding extra blocking is always a bad idea IMO. I almost never disturb or change the area in any way. Sneak in from the side, drop in your loop the right size and height and back out. I don't walk on the trails and I don't try to blend the snare in perfectly, they don't know but what its a weed they push themselves through all night long every night of their lives.

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Pofarmer10
Actually found a good vid. But I can't fine strong enough wire.

you're not gonna find it locally. Get 9 gauge wire from a trap supplier


All the farm stores carry it around here. I posted him a link to it in my first post.

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I disagree Wolfie. He's selling supports, and adding extra blocking is always a bad idea IMO. I almost never disturb or change the area in any way. Sneak in from the side, drop in your loop the right size and height and back out. I don't walk on the trails and I don't try to blend the snare in perfectly, they don't know but what its a weed they push themselves through all night long every night of their lives.


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Re: Cable Restraints? [Re: ~ADC~] #8266429
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Pofarmer10


Not a good video on it IMO. It'll catch a fox probably but you won't catch many coyotes if you set yourself on the ground in the trail and put all that extra blocking in. You need to dedicate a few rebar stakes to using them for your cable restraints. Pigtail and weld some black annealed #9 wire (NOT GALVANIZED) to the top them and use them to anchor and support your CR's. Put them in trails with the coyote tracks, but sneak in from the side, stay off the trail, put your cable restraint swivel on the stake and drive the stake in the ground 3-6 off the side of the trail, find a spot that is naturally tight with grasses and weeds, make your loop at least 10", 12" is better, and set it at least 10" off the ground to the bottom of the loop, again 12" is better using the support collar to hold the snare on the #9 wire. Get in and get out. Set as many as you can, then the next day set more, and so on. Once you have out 100 or two, you'll catch enough to make it real fun. It's a numbers game, more sets = more catches.

You can get that #9 at any farm supply place. https://www.theisens.com/products/garden-zone-annealed-wire-9-ga-10-lb-roll


Thanks I'll try that. But I can't find any of that wire around here.


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if you take some 3/8ths fiberglass rods and cut them about 18" long you will have the start of a CR stabilizing system.
Then take and drill 2 holes about 5" apart. Start with the first hole about 2" below the top of the stake. You can get away with lighter wire because you're not supporting the whole cable. When you cut your wire have enough, so you have about 12" of wire sticking out from the rod. Start out with about 20" of wire shove it through the top hole leaving about 12" sticking out now bend the wire down and bend It so It goes through the bottom hole. You will end up with a few inches stiking out so just bend It down. This will lock It In position.
This Is not a stake It's just stabilizing your CR.


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The easiest and cheapest supports are made from #9 wire at a farm store, fold a tight loop on one end a few inches long, drive a stake in 4” or so then pull it out and shove the loop in.

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Originally Posted by Line Jumper
The easiest and cheapest supports are made from #9 wire at a farm store, fold a tight loop on one end a few inches long, drive a stake in 4” or so then pull it out and shove the loop in.


Not in our dirt. They are way too loose and flop around. Maybe ok when its frozen but it'll never be as solid as welded to the stake (or as easy to find after a catch is made).

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Originally Posted by The Beav
if you take some 3/8ths fiberglass rods and cut them about 18" long you will have the start of a CR stabilizing system.
Then take and drill 2 holes about 5" apart. Start with the first hole about 2" below the top of the stake. You can get away with lighter wire because you're not supporting the whole cable. When you cut your wire have enough, so you have about 12" of wire sticking out from the rod. Start out with about 20" of wire shove it through the top hole leaving about 12" sticking out now bend the wire down and bend It so It goes through the bottom hole. You will end up with a few inches stiking out so just bend It down. This will lock It In position.
This Is not a stake It's just stabilizing your CR.

They sell half inch fiberglass rods will holes predrilled from fencing stores.

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Line Jumper
The easiest and cheapest supports are made from #9 wire at a farm store, fold a tight loop on one end a few inches long, drive a stake in 4” or so then pull it out and shove the loop in.


Not in our dirt. They are way too loose and flop around. Maybe ok when its frozen but it'll never be as solid as welded to the stake (or as easy to find after a catch is made).



Maybe not on bare ground but work fine in sod even in the winds of the SD prairie. Not knocking your system but I guess I never snared in loose soil or sand.

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Each state will have it's own laws, check your reg's.
A CR is basically a snare that relaxes, that same cable will do you fine within the reg's.


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Originally Posted by Line Jumper



Maybe not on bare ground but work fine in sod even in the winds of the SD prairie. Not knocking your system but I guess I never snared in loose soil or sand.



There's basically only one support that will work in any ground that you can drive a stake in and that's a wood stake. I haven't found spot #1 that they don't work. First runner up is the h-tyle supports.

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Supports I like. You you buy a school with a welding class they can know them out pretty quick for you especially if you bend everything. Just 1
1/4 rod and 9# and a big nail on one. The nail one of for stuff like baked red clay the other is general use. The big staple deal keeps it from spinning plus works as a step in.
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This is now old school, analog, but it's all in there........

https://missouriconservation.org/sites/default/files/2020-11/CableRestraintInstructionManual.pdf

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Line Jumper

Maybe not on bare ground but work fine in sod even in the winds of the SD prairie. Not knocking your system but I guess I never snared in loose soil or sand.



There's basically only one support that will work in any ground that you can drive a stake in and that's a wood stake. I haven't found spot #1 that they don't work. First runner up is the h-tyle supports.


I totally disagree. Rebar is better than wood for supports and here's why,,, you can drive it into frozen ground, it doesn't get splintered from driving or chewed on after a catch. It lasts forever and never rots. Less to carry/remember, (stake snare & hammer all you need). It also anchors your snares if you choose to go that route. Your support wire doesn't get lost in the catch circle. Those h type supports get bent all up too. Rebar is cheaper in the long run as well. The only support system that works as well are kill poles or support wires off trees and fences, which are not legal in states requiring CR's as you know.

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rebar will spin in soft ground without a spade/washer added and you only need a few inches of a wood stake it in the ground.to be solid. you can attach snares to wood stakes as well. Used a ton of em (bernies setup) back when it paid to snare coon.

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
rebar will spin in soft ground without a spade/washer added.


No it won't, not if it's long enough to anchor your snare.

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