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Sterling 800's #8275706
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Wondering if anyone has tried the sterling 800's for wolf/wolverine? They look like a stout trap, just seeing if anyone has tried them or if I'm gonna be the guinea pig. As much as I enjoy redundancy with all my gear, I've been on a kick recently of ordering and trying different stuff to see if I want to change anything

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What i don't like about the Sterling 800 is first and for most, is the spring levelers. They bow out when an animals foot is in, as they struggle. Check the archives. I show how that happens in a previous post. This allows the trap to open up and release the foot. The other issue i have is the cast jaw. It is a little to rounded for my liking. It never really holds the foot. But what do i know? I use No. 9's. The State of Oregon game Department had the same issues trying catch and hold Mt. Lions. As far as i know they use No. 9's now. One trapper's complaint in Oregon was, It would also hold black bears. 4cents worth (because of Biden nomices) laugh


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Re: Sterling 800's [Re: isnarewolves] #8276078
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Good to know, I have some #9's and a couple koros I really like, they come up through snow really well. Just looking into other options, hard to know what works and what doesn't if you don't try or ask someone who has. I have some MB 750's and some Bridger #5 alaskans (not a big fan of either one, but if I'm setting near a trail system that sees any use I'd rather one of them get stolen than a koro or #9) also picked up a half dozen Duke 850 OS from 3 bears to try out (so far they seem like an okay cheap trap, not in love with the giant pan, and i haven't hooked into anything to see how well they hang on and hold up)

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Most will work in good field conditions. Trap maintenance is my key thing. The less i have to fool with it, too keep it working. The cleaner the set stays working. My second favorite wolf trap, that is the most affordable is the 14 jump. i upgrade the chain to 2/0 straight link with swivels.


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Re: Sterling 800's [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8276517
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Why would you want to use such a large trap for wolverine? I have only caught a few but the #3 coilsprings have done just as good of a job holding them as the #9’s and MB750 did.

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Originally Posted by broncoformudv
Why would you want to use such a large trap for wolverine? I have only caught a few but the #3 coilsprings have done just as good of a job holding them as the #9’s and MB750 did.

Yep, your right bronco. first the question was for wolf/ wolverine. 2. it is easy to trap a wolverine. It another thing to hold him. I know trappers from the middle yukon that catch wolverine every year with no.1 and 1 1/2 on pole sets.


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I'm not specifically trying to trap a wolverine with an 8"-9" trap, it's mostly because big traps come up through snow better, and I want to hold whatever wolves do investigate the set, rather than make a stupid wolf smart with a small trap. I know people catch otters in 160 conibears, I still use 280's and 330's because I want everything to be there when I come back, and hopefully still be useable for the remake

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Only problem with catching wolverine in the larger traps is you get more that chew their toes and get out. On the other hand the extra weight of the larger trap tires them out quicker.

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Originally Posted by broncoformudv
Only problem with catching wolverine in the larger traps is you get more that chew their toes and get out. On the other hand the extra weight of the larger trap tires them out quicker.

Good to know. Wolverines are a new one for me, I never tried for them in Southeast, I don't even think we have them on a lot of islands. I just bought my place in south central a couple years ago, so I stuck to water trapping and about a dozen marten boxes the last 2 seasons, this year I'm branching out

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Originally Posted by broncoformudv
Only problem with catching wolverine in the larger traps is you get more that chew their toes and get out. On the other hand the extra weight of the larger trap tires them out quicker.

Well with my 2 1/2 years of trapping wolverine, or so. That's why i like the 14 jump. catches them high and it has teeth. Very little paw swell. makes for easier skinning. I have loss some claws from chewing ( i will admit), but i got the skin! laugh


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Originally Posted by isnarewolves
Originally Posted by broncoformudv
Only problem with catching wolverine in the larger traps is you get more that chew their toes and get out. On the other hand the extra weight of the larger trap tires them out quicker.

Well with my 2 1/2 years of trapping wolverine, or so. That's why i like the 14 jump. catches them high and it has teeth. Very little paw swell. makes for easier skinning. I have loss some claws from chewing ( i will admit), but i got the skin! laugh



I think the teeth would really help keep them from being able to twist their feet out of the jaws.

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I do have some elevated wolverine sets that I used #4 dls's on, they shouldn't get buried too bad where they are, and I highly doubt anything bigger than gulo is gonna shimmy up there. I also have a couple marten poles within 50 feet, I'd rather they not end up in a #4

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The NO BS K9 extreme is the best ive seen yet. smaller than the big wolf traps but its going to hold anything that gets a paw in there and with minimal damage. Vey satisfied with these traps and glad ive got 51 of them in my inventory


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Originally Posted by Ryan McLeod
The NO BS K9 extreme is the best ive seen yet. smaller than the big wolf traps but its going to hold anything that gets a paw in there and with minimal damage. Vey satisfied with these traps and glad ive got 51 of them in my inventory


Hands down the best trap I have found for wolverine sets. Flawless in strength, resistance to damage, and as a bonus they don’t have a single piece on them that I have seen eaten or defeated by wolverine or wolves.

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Originally Posted by Ryan McLeod
The NO BS K9 extreme is the best ive seen yet. smaller than the big wolf traps but its going to hold anything that gets a paw in there and with minimal damage. Vey satisfied with these traps and glad ive got 51 of them in my inventory


They are great traps! Ordered mine with the white powder coat.

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I’ve been using NO BS on wolves for five season now. It’s my go-to trap. The coating holds up very well in the salt water. I use AK#9s for dry land, MB 750 or SC 4.5 in places with trap thieves and everything else gets NO BS. I will be ordering more before too long.

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Originally Posted by SE.Current
I’ve been using NO BS on wolves for five season now. It’s my go-to trap. The coating holds up very well in the salt water. I use AK#9s for dry land, MB 750 or SC 4.5 in places with trap thieves and everything else gets NO BS. I will be ordering more before too long.



I have the NO BS wolf traps as well. Only caught one wolf but it was a perfect high foot catch despite a lot of snow cover. Caught a moose this past week that thankfully pulled out, no trap damage.

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I also am a fan of the NO BS Canine Extreme for wolverine. I will add that I am no fan of the V-14 toothed jump for gulo, however. I lost more wolverine to toe catches with them than I held, by far.


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You guys using closed jaws or offset jaws on your K9 Xtremes? I've caught wolves in the offset jaws in Idaho. Great trap.


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Originally Posted by sneaky
You guys using closed jaws or offset jaws on your K9 Xtremes? I've caught wolves in the offset jaws in Idaho. Great trap.


I am using offset laminated on all my footholds.

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I was liking the mb650 last couple years I trapped around Nome. Strong and very little room to chew.

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The extremes I used for wolverine were closed jaw.


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Originally Posted by isnarewolves
What i don't like about the Sterling 800 is first and for most, is the spring levelers. They bow out when an animals foot is in, as they struggle. Check the archives. I show how that happens in a previous post. This allows the trap to open up and release the foot. The other issue i have is the cast jaw. It is a little to rounded for my liking. It never really holds the foot. But what do i know? I use No. 9's. The State of Oregon game Department had the same issues trying catch and hold Mt. Lions. As far as i know they use No. 9's now. One trapper's complaint in Oregon was, It would also hold black bears. 4cents worth (because of Biden nomices) laugh

Interesting, the one guy I used to talk to (because I would run into him out there trapping and hunting lions whenever I was in the area bobcat hunting) claimed the Sterling 800s were his favorite trap for them. He was not a big fan of the #9s. Personally I've never used a Sterling 800 but have heard good things about them. I have some 9s though and like them very well for a deep snow trap, just watch the nontargets, they are very good at hanging on to anything that steps in them, including hooves.

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I also like the #9's a lot, they're an awesome trap. I'm just interested in trying different stuff. I used to exclusively trap marten in boxes with #120's and #155's, this year I'm only running a few boxes, 90% of my marten sets are a running pole with a #1 or #1.5 longspring this year, just because I wanted to try it out. Not that my marten sets have anything to do with my selection of big footholds, just saying I'm experimenting for the sake of fun and to break up the monotony.

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Guess I should have clarified my offset vs closed jaw question was for wolverines. We don't get to trap them down here, didn't know if they could pull out of an offset or not.


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Originally Posted by Ryan McLeod
The NO BS K9 extreme is the best ive seen yet. smaller than the big wolf traps but its going to hold anything that gets a paw in there and with minimal damage. Vey satisfied with these traps and glad ive got 51 of them in my inventory

Thanks.Good to know


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Originally Posted by sneaky
Guess I should have clarified my offset vs closed jaw question was for wolverines. We don't get to trap them down here, didn't know if they could pull out of an offset or not.



I have caught two in #3 offsets and they were not able to pull out at all. Caught one in an MB750 offset and it wasn't able to pull out either. Can't remember if the #9 was offset or not but I think it had standard jaws and held that wolverine. Only one I have had slip out of a foothold was a #4 longspring with standard jaws that had the wolverine by one toe, it cut the skin clean through all the way around the toe and I was left with the avulsed skin and toe nail.

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I would argue that for most animals, closed vs. offset jaws is more about how we each personally feel about using either one. I tend to lean towards offset for trapping on land, I'd rather have the room for the levers/springs to come up higher. That said, I use plenty of closed jaws on land too, I run what I brung. Maybe I'm wrong, there's many guys out there smarter than me who have trapped more winters than I've seen.

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