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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: waggler] #8282442
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The one in the Thumb was discovered west of Ubly and by coyote hunters. It eventually made its way to Minden State Game area where it eventually died quite a few years later. John Ford was a local teacher who spent a ton of his time keeping track of it and he found it dead. DNA results indicate it came from Ontario. That winter Lake Huron totally froze across as it has in other winters. A few years ago a Lynx was live trapped by Ruth after it had started killing farm geese. That Lynx was taken back to Canada (illegal immigrant!!!). There aren’t bobcats in this area of Michigan. Only about 60 miles across from Harbor Beach to Canada! And, freighters aren’t running in deep winter, the Soo Locks close sometime around the new year too.

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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282452
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So there's lynx and wolverines directly across from Harbor Beach?


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282473
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And yes,the DNA results said it was from Ontario.But one of theories that our DNR floated was it hitched a ride on a garbage truck.I have no idea how this would have been possible,it sounded ridiculous to.me,but that theory was still around in the press releases after it was found dead.As I said at the beginning of this post,where it came from and how is dubious


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282524
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LOL A wolverine hitched a ride on a garbage truck!
It reminds me of when I caught a wolverine in Ohio on my coon line.
The GW speculated it might have caught a ride on a freight train , as I caught it in a part of a gravel pit.
There was a lime stone supplier there.
Found out a local had a permit for exotics , and it escaped from him.
When I took it back to him, alive , we talked and he said it came out of Minnesota , across the Canadian border.
He told me he could drive across the border there and get them in Canada, if he needed another one.
Cogar is another one that got away from him, they tracked it into Pennsylvania last I heard.
So it's quite possible there's a wolverine in Michigan.


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282527
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GO BLUE!


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #8282529
12/09/24 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
And yes,the DNA results said it was from Ontario.But one of theories that our DNR floated was it hitched a ride on a garbage truck.I have no idea how this would have been possible,it sounded ridiculous to.me,but that theory was still around in the press releases after it was found dead.As I said at the beginning of this post,where it came from and how is dubious



So Ontario is shipping their trash to the US now? How does a garbage truck get through customs? Like you, I would have shot holes in that theory right away.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282534
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Do you believe him? STORY


They gentleman said he has never saw a fisher.

I'd wager it was a fisher.


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: Steven 49er] #8282535
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by BernieB.
Do you believe him? STORY


They gentleman said he has never saw a fisher.

I'd wager it was a fisher.


Possible, but as soon as I got close to the one I caught, there was no doubt what it was.


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282536
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I find it hard to picture a wolverine hitching a ride on any truck.


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282586
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I can believe in a wolverine getting stuck in a garbage truck.
Check out these wolverines coming out of shipping containers filled with garbage.


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282590
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Once you see that 'V' you know!


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8282667
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Once you see that 'V' you know!


Exactly! There is no mistaking them! I chased the one I saw and the odor was fairly distinct too.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: 160user] #8282723
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Once you see that 'V' you know!


Exactly! There is no mistaking them! I chased the one I saw and the odor was fairly distinct too.


Wait a minute then! I think I know her as well! Chanel #9, oh what a night……

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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8282947
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Many of the "sportsmen" on the hunting forums and social media groups in MI that spend time in the UP don't know what a marten, fisher are nor the difference between a coyote and a wolf. Heck, every few years someone shoots an elk in the northern lower mistaking it for a deer.

I know trappers and houndsmen who have seen marten and fisher in the lower peninsula.

I'd bet he saw a fisher, badger or a coon and figured wolverine.

The number of people in the woods and trail cameras out is insane. A critter like a wolverine to get to the middle of the lower peninsula without being seen, trapped, hit, shot... Not sure I'm buying it.


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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8283174
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Proving that wolverines or lynx are in the northern Great Lakes could really impact land trapping for thousands of trappers. As stated above large animals don't need to swim at all to get to MI, WI, there is plenty of ice for several months each year, plus walking the shoreline. I don't see a couple hundred miles an issue for an adult wolverine.

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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: bblwi] #8283223
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Proving that wolverines or lynx are in the northern Great Lakes could really impact land trapping for thousands of trappers.



^^^^^This

Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: BernieB.] #8283240
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We actually have rare sightings here in Utah as well. My son took pictures of this one they trapped in Randolf. They relocated it up in the Uinta Mountains.

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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: foxhunter52] #8283245
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Originally Posted by foxhunter52
We actually have rare sightings here in Utah as well. My son took pictures of this one they trapped in Randolf. They relocated it up in the Uinta Mountains.

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Re: Wolverine in Michigan? [Re: bblwi] #8283253
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Proving that wolverines or lynx are in the northern Great Lakes could really impact land trapping for thousands of trappers. As stated above large animals don't need to swim at all to get to MI, WI, there is plenty of ice for several months each year, plus walking the shoreline. I don't see a couple hundred miles an issue for an adult wolverine.

Bryce

Lynx absolutely turn up in Michigan about once every 10-15 years. There have been a couple trapped in the eastern U.P. in the last 20-25 years. The one trapped in the Thumb was videoed a few miles south a couple weeks before it was trapped. That cat was held briefly in captivity (to make sure it wasn't injured), then it was released in the eastern U.P. by DNR employees. It's release was videoed. The last lynx reported in the lower peninsula before the Thumb incident were 3 trapped in Crawford County the year my mother was born.....1917. Crawford is the next county north of my home in Roscommon Co. As for wolverine, well, if a guy told me in '04 that he saw one in the Thumb while coyote hunting I would have thought he was a goofy as most of those folks that tell me they saw wolverines several times since. ........yet the one in the Thumb was very well documented. John Ford, by the way, did not find the carcass of that animal, it was found by a couple hiking along a drainage ditch near where Mr. Ford had gotten some trailcam photos of the beast in the past. I used to hunt with a houndsman and his hunting partner that ran, and shot, the very last recorded lynx legally taken in the state in, I believe, the late 1950's. It was shot in the area north of St. Ignace near the Mackinaw/Chippewa county line. Two of the biggest Bobcats I ever mounted were ,coincidently, shot by the same two houndsmen in the same season, about 40 years after that last lynx was taken. The lynx shooter has since passed away.
edit.....I read some time ago, but have no memory where, that at the time of the Thumb wolverine, the Ontario MNR had confirmed a wild wolverine on Manitoulin Island in northern lake Huron.....only a short way from Drummond Is., michigan. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to believe a wolverine could travel along the east side of Georgian bay and enter the Thumb by simply crossing the St. Claire river!

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