Not to be too rude, but I’ve seen pics of you that you’ve posted and you’re quite overweight.

Also the list of side effects you posted about the keto diet that you’re mocking, are the same ailments that you have VERY regularly posted about you having gone through yourself.

I think whatever diet you are on (American diet no doubt) is much worse than keto.

Not seen pic of me lately have you ? First not mocking it. Read my comments. Said not for me. Not going to chance clogging my arteries with all that grease. My last labs my numbers that are connected with heart disease are the best ones I’ve had in 25 years. Zero meds that are prescribed to achieve them. Skinny isn’t always healthy. Look at people on ozempic that are doing it ONLY fir weight loss. Look like they are on chemotherapy. Oat meal and jello will jerk the weight off. I know been there done that. Here’s most recent pic

People that I know on keto and others that tell the truth about it all lose weight I agree. Their exercise is increased from all the RUNNING. Running to the bathroom as fast as they can because their colon is disagreeing with the grease. But I’m sure not everyone is the same

You are so full of crap it's hilarious. One of the main side affects of Ketosis is constipation because of the lack of fiber. Takes a while to adjust, but tunning to the bathroom is not the problem. LOL

ya j that last but is so far off its unreal. As sick and down as you have Been the last year or so I would expect you dropped some weight and I'm guessing that's where the oats and jello come to play.

I never crapped my self so much as the month I went vegetarian on bet probably 15 years ago.

3 weeks to get sorted onto not eating any meat and about a week to transition back after I hit my month.

and honestly it made me grow as a cook , no I am never doing it again.

the transition off sugar and cereal grains really wasn't that hard after the 2 weeks of jonesing for sugar

today it is almost all veg , meat , dairy , it works well for me most veg has enough starch in it as it is.

there is Keto and there is Paleo , the low carb thing is probably closer to Paleo

Paleo being if it wasn't a food option thousands of years ago it isn't part of the diet
that would allow some grain like rice and I have a little rice in very small quantities usually with a hunk of raw fish on it but not very often.
if we think about it on the north American continent or WI specifically a thousand years ago Wild rice would have been one of the very few grains.

the transition doesn't need to be an overnight one you can just start cutting out carbs and adding proteins and fat in growing quantities

the issue is often that we were getting enough protein around a pound a day , we often are even getting enough fat , we are just getting hundreds if not thousands of calories of sugar that the human body just isn't adapted too , our grandparents in the 1900-1940 were not getting that kind of sugar so we have 1-3 generations of sugar and cereal grain increase often with much greater sedentary life.
everything is easier , no walk to the outhouse , no fetching water from the pump , no heating the water , no cutting and hauling firewood. no scrubbing on the laundry.
no fetching the horse and hitching a wagon , not even grinding the coffee. everything is a push of a button, flip of a switch or a turn of a key.

we saw diabetes bad in African American and Native American populations first , African Americans made sugar 200 years ago they seldom got to partake in eating sugar.
Natives have thousands of years of meat ,veg , wild rice , then got subsidized cereal grains pushed on them the same as much of the African American populating.

that is not to say our white Ancestors really had that much better of a way of handling sugar. I have 2 great grandparents who died from type 2 diabetes in the their 40s 41 and 47 both sides of the family. my moms grandpa and my dads grandma. this was late 1930s and early 1940s

Hmmmm guess person wrote this is full of crap. I have 5 buddies on a keto diet. Everyone of them started out with SEVERE diarrhea. What I based that statement on. I didn’t try it. Love clean arteries.

Your body runs of glucose, yes ketosis I'd a good runner up to glucose but shouldn't be ran off in ketosis.

Only negative effect I had at all was a few headaches after the first few weeks. That's from my body adjustments from burning sugar to burning fats.

J I have no idea what was going on with your friends or your linked stuff but like noted people are more likely to
have constipation due reduction in fiber. Here is an idea. Instead of just linking stuff with zero substance and pointing and say see look here. If you post something post things that can explain why those may be the result. Lik Like lack of fiber. As far as your 5 friends I have no idea what there diets were before or other health issues they may have had but your the absolutely only person I have heard this from. Neither myself, wife, or many friends have had this issue or even said it was a possibility.

I guess everyones bodies are different. for example I have never has a gallstone but you seem to have chronic issues. Some men have heart attacks in their 40s others never have an issue.

Exactly PF every one is different! So far people lashing back must have had bad side effects. Why the hostility? I never said anyone doing it was crazy , foolish , FULL OF CRAP! I just said not for me. Not rolling the dice when it’s known high fat contributes to hardening of the arteries as well as colon cancer. One of the people I’m talking about was my son. He lost 25 lbs on it but the first 3 weeks boy lived in the bathroom when I mentioned trying it he told me how awful the diarrhea was. He’s not on it now but it did help him wean his body from carbs. Think he’s back up about 8-10 lbs from lowest
Heck I remember back when light for life was the hottest diet. Eat 6-8 SMALL. Meals a day It worked for some. Others got fat

PF don't know how or were you expect me to get more info on symptoms. I don't have a grant to run a study of people starting the diet plan . But EVERY chart that shows up when I google it says diarrhea IS one side effect COMMON to it. YES NOT ALL experience it Once again NOT FOR ME

Some people experience diarrhea when they start the keto diet, but it's less common than constipation. The severity and duration of diarrhea varies widely, and not everyone who starts the keto diet will experience it.
Some groups of people are more likely to experience diarrhea, including:
People with a history of gastrointestinal issues like Celiac disease or irritable bowel syndrome
People who have a low tolerance for fat or dairy
People who transition to the keto diet quickly, especially if they start with a very restrictive version
Some causes of diarrhea on the keto diet include:
Lack of fiber: Fiber helps bulk up stool and prevent diarrhea
Processed low-carb foods: These foods may contain sugar alcohols, which can ferment in the gut and cause diarrhea
Artificial sweeteners: Some people use artificial sweeteners to limit carbs, but they aren't absorbed well by the gut
Some ways to manage diarrhea and other digestive issues include:
Eating fermented foods
Drinking water
Eating healthy low-carb vegetables, which contain fiber
Gradually adjusting your carbs and fats
Digestive issues are usually temporary and resolve within a few weeks as your body adjusts to the new diet. However, if you're still having issues after making adjustments, you might want to consider stopping the keto diet.
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. In addition to constipation, diarrhea can crop up as a side effect of the keto diet — especially in the first few weeks. “Some people have difficulty digesting large amounts of dietary fat, which can lead to greasy diarrhea,” notes Yawitz.

Other causes of diarrhea on the keto diet include lack of fiber (fiber helps ward off diarrhea by bulking up stool) and processed low-carb foods like shakes and bars that may contain sugar alcohols. These sugar alcohols can ferment in the gut and cause gastrointestinal discomfort. Yawitz suggests limiting foods labeled “sugar free” if you’re prone to gas or diarrhea when you eat them. And you may want to gradually adjust your carbs downward and your fats upward. “Also build your diet around [naturally] high-fiber, low-carb foods like avocado and nonstarchy vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower, and asparagus,” she says. Other keto-friendly ways to get more fiber include chia seeds, almonds, and coconut.

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if you are limiting yourself to 1 pound of protein and not trying to add signifigant fat , and making up all the rest with vegitables , you WILL NOT HAVE A LACK OF FIBER

veg has a lot of fiber , you do not need cereal grains to get fiber

switching to any diet cold turkey will give you the trotts

there is more fiber in a cup of green beans than 3 slices of bread

there is 17 carbs in 1 cup of bread cubes and 7 carbs in 1 cup of green beans

Jbyrd, all you keep doing is mentioning a side effect to the diet as one begins it. Once their body regulates all that stops.

How old are you jbyrd, if you don’t mind me asking.

Glad you’re losing weight!

the biggest think that makes since to me about folks that get the runs would be other underlying issues like stated celiac or dairy issues and
/or those that move to artificial sweetners know to cause the runs when a lot of its consumed. Mom got some sugar free candy and went over board on it and got this results.


We just cut out the sugar and didn't look for a replacement also don't go for the low carb processed stuff. Good chance that's the difference.

I will say I have stayed the same weight the last few weeks as has the wife. kind of stalled out some