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Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Bruce T] #8291674
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2024 ski doo tundra long track
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2024 scandic wide track
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Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Boco] #8291706
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Originally Posted by Boco
Much lighter weight than the scandik sort of a crossover with the long track and 550 engine.
They only made them for a year or two.Not tippy at all like the newer tundras.
Great machine for breaking trail for a 15 inch track.its got the inch and a half lugs on the track also.The extra wide ski skins really improve the performance in the deep powder.
There is another one in town but they are scarce.
It skips across open water real good,lol.

A friend of mine has one of those, and I've seen a couple others around. I bought an 08 300 (actually 277cc) new that was the same design, they made the 300 for three years and I think the 550 with that front end also those three years, then they went to a pogo front end and discontinued the 300. Those steer like a dream, the 300s are tippy, but not compared to the older Tundra Rs, and steer a hundred times better and are way more comfortable. I gave mine to my mom with over 30,000 miles on it about seven years ago and she is still riding it, although the oiler quit on it in 30 below weather just before I gave it to her and I seized it up and had to rebuild the engine, so it isn't original. The 300s came with a 138x16 track, which finally wore out on her and she replaced it with a 15 inch wide track (was a few hundred dollars cheaper for an aftermarket 15, could only find a skidoo 16 to fit, no aftermarkets) and claims little lose in performance out of the narrower track. They were a great machine, I don't know why they quit making them. I've heard numerous times how that A-arm front end isn't as tough as the pogo fronted, but I know I beat that thing off trees, stumps, gates, rocks and everything else and never broke a thing. I will say that when you are breaking trail with the throttle pinned going up through places overgrown with tag alders, those A-arms and coilsprings are real good at grabbing brush and coming to a sudden stop, I've had them switch ends on me and stop suddenly, while I kept going.

The 550 is a good reliable motor, but it will burn double the fuel the 300 will (makes sense, it is a two cylinder with the same piston and jugs as the 300, just two of them instead of one). The four stroke motors, both the 600 and 900 ACE are awesome on fuel mileage, getting better mileage than the old single cylinder Tundras.

I personally wouldn't go back to a 2 stroke for an every day sled, although they are simple to work on. The four strokes are quieter, way better on fuel mileage, and more reliable. But they have a bunch of electronic junk on them and if something does go wrong they are not as easy to work on. For what I do I love my SWT, but there are advantages and disadvantages of the wider tracks. If they made the Tundra with a high/low transmission like the Skandic and wide track Expeditions it would be much better for pulling loads on narrow trails. I've got 6000 on my SWT and am still on the original belt. While my Tundras were good on belts they never lasted that long and my Arctic Cat would go through at least half a dozen a year.

Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Bruce T] #8291772
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I want to second the expedition sport. I have a 600 ACE, often wish I had the 900 Ace although I pull a relatively heavy sled. I would never own another 2 stroke.
In short, the expy sport is a tundra with A arm suspension. I rode my 600 ace tundra several thousand miles, mostly in Montana, bust also on the north slope (miles of hard wind blown sastrugi mixed with bottomless power in willow bottoms). I have never ever wished I had a Tubdra again. When people say they are tippy, it is a vast understatement.
In my mind the Expy is much superior on any kind of trail and equal in the woods and brush. Best advice is ride one of each.

Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Bruce T] #8291788
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Are you moving up here, Bruce?

Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Bruce T] #8291791
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Another option would be to look at the Lynx Ranger 49 with the 2 stroke engine and manual start.
Or the lynx Brutal.

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Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Bruce T] #8291876
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The 4 stroke sounds great, it’s just the fear of minor breakdowns that require a friggin mechanic. I’d have to ditch the sled, get home, haul the trail er out from the back and over to the shack, then get the sled back to a dealer to fix something that’s probably simple…lol.
The Expy has an adjustable 39” stance where my older tundra has 32. Yes, tippy but it sure can get through some tight spots when making new trails….if that’s even one of your requirements.


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Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Shakeyjake] #8291913
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
The 4 stroke sounds great, it’s just the fear of minor breakdowns that require a friggin mechanic. I’d have to ditch the sled, get home, haul the trail er out from the back and over to the shack, then get the sled back to a dealer to fix something that’s probably simple…lol.
The Expy has an adjustable 39” stance where my older tundra has 32. Yes, tippy but it sure can get through some tight spots when making new trails….if that’s even one of your requirements.

I've hem-hawed back and forth between the Skandic and Expedition models, and ended up with the Skandic for that very reason, the narrower stance (still wider than the old single cylinder Tundras) fits in tighter places. On the other hand, if I was buying a new sled for the wife I would buy the Expedition, hands down. Because a less experienced rider, who probably isn't going to go on so many "iffy" trails, for someone like her I would pick stability over slimness.

Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: martentrapper] #8291953
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Are you moving up here, Bruce?

Going to start doing some trapping in Alaska.First goal is a wolverine.


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Re: New snowsled for Alaska [Re: Bruce T] #8292205
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Perhaps the first goal should be to acquire a useful snogo? You have a friend or relative up here? Next goal might be to find a place to trap? What about a truck and trailer? If you won't be here year round where will you keep the snogo?
Seems like a fair amount of preparation needed to get to the point of actually setting a trap. How old are you?

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