Gut pile coyote attractant
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So we've been having trouble with coyotes this year. Not our family personally but the dairy farmer across the creek about 200 yards away from our house has had a couple calves taken out by them. They have asked us to try and get rid of them either by hunting or trapping and I'd like to do that for them.
My question is(I know the laws regarding bait) Will a gut pile attract more yotes to the area? Or If I hunt it often enough or trap will it take the population down?
Thanks, Trapre
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
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10/13/18 01:40 PM
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I would think both--it will attract coyotes and, depending on how much and how well you hunt and trap, reduce the population. At some point hunting and trapping will reach a balance point with the population. Either you wipe them out temporarily, or a lesser number of wised up coyotes become very wary of traps and bait there. That will help by making them reluctant to hang around there--temporarily.
I suspect the calf killers are the dominant pair that have that farm staked out as their territory. If you get them, it will be a while before the problem arises again. Not all coyotes kill livestock. But after one dominant pair or experienced calf killer leaves, another will sooner or later replace them around cattle farms.
It is more work and problem to provide newborn calves with a coyote--safe compound until they are better able to fend for themselves, but that is the best solution. Not as much fun though... That sounds like a very knowledgeable answer! I have to talk over the gut pile idea with the farmer yet. I just wanted to see if it might work to even get rid of the killers.
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
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See if the farmer has a pit that he throws any dead livestock into. That would be a natural attractant and all you would have to do is add to it. Also check your state laws regarding exposed bait.
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
[Re: trapre]
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He buries his dead animals like a respectable farmer Helping keep rabies and other diseases down. Bait cannot be seen from air, that's basically the only rule in Pa regarding hunting or trapping over bait.
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
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He buries his dead animals like a respectable farmer Helping keep rabies and other diseases down. Bait cannot be seen from air, that's basically the only rule in Pa regarding hunting or trapping over bait. You'd be surprised how far a coyote will dig down for something that's buried. I'd personally go check out where he's buried them in the past. Set the trails coming to it as far out as your state law dictates. I knew of a pig farmer that had a "compost pile" or a pile he'd bury his pigs. They'd dig down and carry off a full hog every night no matter how deep he buried it.
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
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He buries his dead animals like a respectable farmer Helping keep rabies and other diseases down. Bait cannot be seen from air, that's basically the only rule in Pa regarding hunting or trapping over bait. You'd be surprised how far a coyote will dig down for something that's buried. I'd personally go check out where he's buried them in the past. Set the trails coming to it as far out as your state law dictates. I knew of a pig farmer that had a "compost pile" or a pile he'd bury his pigs. They'd dig down and carry off a full hog every night no matter how deep he buried it. Same here. Local farmer buried a cow in early spring and the coyotes have been digging on it all summer, almost as fast as he can cover it back up! He said in the past they have worked sites like that for well over a year so hope to catch a few off of it this fall. Sites like this are like money in the bank!
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
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10/14/18 05:50 PM
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The coyotes are already coming there. Figure out how or where. They are checking the place. Tracks and scat will tell how often. The smell of cows in a lot IS the attractant. Spend your time on getting your traps or call's ready to use. Set and call the approaches. That simple.
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Re: Gut pile coyote attractant
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Will a gut pile attract more yotes to the area? Kill the resident yotes others will come. Guaranteed. may take a week or two before they fill back in.
Or If I hunt it often enough or trap will it take the population down? Yes. More will come because they can smell cow lots for miles upon miles.
Praise the Lord and Pass the ammunition.
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