I've tried to guide my son several times deer hunting and he has had some of the crumbiest luck which I get down on myself for as his guide but gosh dang. He finally got a doe this past fall. I've seen and missed more large bucks the few times we've went together than I have seen by myself in my whole life. I try to explain to him that seeing them is most the fun but he is young and wasn't interested in hearing it. Luckily he got the monkey of his back. Luckily we have the monkey off our back I should say. All you can do is get them out there and ya can't fault a guy for trying. Good luck to ya.