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Tick borne disease #8289196
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Does our government lie to the people?
Is the CDC run by our government?
Does the CDC lie to the people?
Is the medical profession run by the CDC?
Does the CDC set medical guidelines?
Does long term Lyme disease exist?
Do you ever get cured of Lyme disease?
Why are you exempt from giving blood if you were ever diagnosed with Lyme disease?
How accurate are Lyme disease test?
Do Drs know or do they go along with the CDC?
Do they care?
Educate yourself don't just go along, it may be a very long ride. Lol

Re: Tick borne disease [Re: nate] #8289274
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I've only had 2 doctors in my 60+ years, although went about 20 years without seeing any.

Current Doc, I was his first Lyme's case, 35 years ago.
My wife was diagnosed by her veterinarian, lol, a year before, her doc had never heard of Lyme's.
Testing sucks, treatment sucks, now add in erlichosis, Alpha gal, etc, etc, etc

Current doctor told me he feels betrayed by CDC and NIH due to.the Covid nonsense.
Said they are no longer medical, but political entities.

He's not wrong...

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Never paid any attention to the CDC until COVID. Now I consider them not to be trusted.

Re: Tick borne disease [Re: nate] #8289281
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Add the WHO to that list also.

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Chronic Lyme's is real, but a pain to diagnose unless you have acute symptoms because the pathogen may hibernate in hard to reach places in your body, such as inside some joints or parts of the nervous system. Borrelia bacteria are intracellular parasites meaning they may live inside the cells without being present or releasing much into the bloodstream, so usually you can't detect them by looking for their DNA in the blood (PCR method) unless you manage to sample the affected part of your body, for instance by drawing fluid from the affected joint. Moreover, your body may not identify Borrelia as a threat properly to produce enough detectable antibodies, so the serology (immunological) method of detection may not work either. Because Borrelia reside inside the cells, and may be dormant for a long time, they're very hard to wipe out completely with antibiotics. Antibiotics work by disrupting processes inside active bacterial cells, but when they're inactive, antibiotics aren't really effective in the standard dosages. This explains the blood donation exemption, there is no safe way to make sure the infection is gone.

Plenty of other nasty and fatal tick-borne diseases nowadays, and new ones appear all the time "thanks" to international trade and human traffic. I lost one of my best friends to tick-borne encephalitis, which used to be endemic to some parts of the Far East. Mosquitoes are just as bad. I was working in my garden this summer and noticed that the mosquitoes covering me seemed strange, small and black with white stripes on the legs. So now we have the Asian Tiger Mosquito here, the main Dengue fever vector, and we're a loooong way from Southeast Asia.

Learn directly from those who know, not from the Big Brother pamphlets. PubMed is still publicly accessible. SciHub still works. Not everything is classified and it's not always about conspiracies, the system is just too stupid and slow, so good new research may take years or decades to make it through the bureaucracy.

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There was a vaccine but nobody wanted it. But they’re starting trials again for a new one…..this is from the CDC so believe what you want…lol
https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/about/lyme-disease-vaccine.html


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My wife had Lyme disease twice. It's no joke. It's very bad in central and North Central Minnesota, I know dozens of people who have had it and a couple who died from it.

and it's also not called Lyme's disease by the way.

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Hard to trust ANYONE anymore

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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
There was a vaccine but nobody wanted it. But they’re starting trials again for a new one…..this is from the CDC so believe what you want…lol
https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/about/lyme-disease-vaccine.html

Ask Lyme literate Drs about the Lyme vaccine, then be glad you never took it.
Anyone that's been an outdoorsman their entire life, and anyone else,if you suspect a tick borne disease or have medical symptoms that are not getting diagnosed,should look up the (Western Blot) blood test and then find s Dr. That can read it correctly. It's enexspecive.

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