Person is making an effort.

DO NOT DEAL WITH CHARLIE V!!!
a couple of weeks ago he offered me some traps, but gave me the wrong price because he was thinking of a different trap but clearly told me he would give me 7 #2 monties for $50 shipped then he told me he would give me them for the price because of his mistake, i said ok ill take them and sent him the money he asked for..3 days later he pms me and says why did u send me this money, my pms got deleted i dont remeber? i sent him the whole pm that i had in my inbox, he said now i remember but your just a begger and up to no good so its not a deal and he sent me my money back!!! i would not recomend dealing with him to anybody! do not trust this guy, and if somebody does not believe me i have all the proof right in my inbox and would be MORE than happy to send them to you.

Send it to me then please!!!

Send it to me too please. All I have ever heard or seen from Charlie V has been good stuff.

Well fellas get ready to be to lost because I have been through the pm's with other guys already and it makes no sence to me.So I MAILED HIM HIS MONEY ORDER BACK,nothing was hurt by this deal except some feelings.There was a huge break down in the kind of traps he wanted and what I had forsale.1/2 way through this deal when the double talkin and back peddling started I was angry and then I removed myself from the subject.I did change my mind about my dogless traps and he knew that.I have offered him other traps for a price he could afford,but there has been no responce.I also told him That I wanted to talk with his parents about this because he is a MINOR,I have had no responce.It's easier to drag someone through the mud,Hopefully this has not affected the deals I have currently going,because after those are finished I am done dealing on this site.What this boils down to is he confused the the heck otta me with all the double talk and Wouldn't make up his mind so I backed out and fully refunded his money.I have apolijized to Darren offered to get him other traps and now I am movin on with life.Later Charlie

I've dealt with Charlie V. and have not had any problems, I suspect this has alot to do with immaturity on someone else's part.....Charlie V. IS a stand up guy, and would not buy into a 14 yr olds lies!

CharlieV and I have done buissness before and everything has always gone smoothly. After hearing both sides it sounds like an honest mistake that could have happened to anyone. I am not sure that this even belongs in the bad feedback.

If he send your money back and nothing was lost, its not a big deal. I have had people do it to me and I just keep looking since you can almost always find another good deal. He has dealt with dozens of people and I dont think one of his deals has gone sour.

ive seen some people put bad feedback on people on here just for sayin they was gonna buy something then ended up not being able to no money sent or anything. Kinda bad deal with it being a 14 year old kid i would of prolly sent him the traps anyways for the 50 bucks or whatever just cause it's a kid. but once the old generation dies out and no young ones in this to keep trapping tradition going people be scratchin there heads. this is coming from a 25 year old.

Joe, I think the issue is that some people aren't being honest. Some people are saying one thing and it's not true, and then another and another and another, and the people they're dealing with are tired of getting the runaround. I'm dealing right now with 2 kids. One of them gave me his parents contact information, the other used his father's account and screwed the deal up. Now the dad is having to scramble backwards to try and make the deal right (which I hope he will, but will be posting if it turns out otherwise).

Charlie V had the right idea with wanting to talk to the parents. These ARE minors, and as a result, the parents are the ones ultimately responsible for their kid's bad dealings if something goes wrong.

There are a lot of honest kids on here, and then there are some that aren't. Same goes with adults.

Oh, and I'm 27. For the record... not defending him, but the kid that gave me his parent's contact information was darren.

thank you lil'bit.

oh ok i must have misread it lil bit i thought he had said the kid sent him the money. i was just thinking that he might of been able to get more then 50 for the traps but might of made a huge impact on the kid. i love this classfieds on here i guess ive just been lucky and had nothing but good dealings on here. LiL Bit empty ur pm box so i can pm ya!

whoops on it

PL you are not alone. Jerry and John are still waiting on Gary to make good on a deal they had with him for some animals for taxidermy he received from them. they hand delivered the animals to him with the promise of payment the next day as he was gonna deliver them that evening to the taxidermist that wanted the animals. till this day they have not been able to get him to make good on the deal. Its literally been years and still no money and no response to repeated attempts to locate and contact him.

he has been pmd here about the situation and read but did not repsond to the pm.

Good Luck recovering your funds. Youre gonna need it,imo.

get in the brush

Advertised 9 330's and 3 280's a while back. Said I was interested. After a week, he gets a shipping quote to me that is over 50 dollars, so I ask him to find out what parcel post was instead of priority. After several more days, I get tired of waiting and ask for his address, ready to lump it and send him the money. Next thing I know, he tells me his kid uses his account, reads his pm's and threw a fit that he was selling HIS 330's. Wants to back out on it. I post a WTB ad on here for 330's, mentioning that I'm having trouble without calling him out, and he panics and says he's going to get banned for letting 110 ratter use his account. Magically, the kid, or his dad, I'm not sure which, agrees to selling a dozen 330's for 120 and 3 28's for 35. I ask if he's going to screw me on the shipping, and he says he's going to call his post office. Then, I don't hear back from him. I backed out on this deal because I was sick of the runaround, and apparently, I'm not the only one. If you want doubletalk and screwy deals, this is the guy to deal with. DEAL WITH AT OWN RISK!

Oh, and yeah, I've got all the pm's saved to a word file. I'm thanking my lucky stars I didn't send this guy money, as I have a feeling, I wouldn't have gotten anything in return.

TacDriver1: DEAL WITH AT YOUR OWN RISK!!

Made a deal to buy an old laptop. Money was sent and acknowledge as received. Bank draft was cashed August 4th. I have not seen the laptop and have been unable to contact the fellow. Tried calling and found a rather upset person claiming that they have had that phone number for over a year and do not know how to contact the former user of that number. I will be contacting the Saginaw, Michigan law enforcement with the info on this issue.

TacDriver1: AKA
Jordan White
5700 Lessandro St.
Saginaw, Michigan 48603
989-401-0859

REM

Interesting developement: Ten minutes after I tried to contact TacDriver by phone, he "removed himself from the topic" from the string of PMs regarding the laptop. I will contacting Saginaw law enforcement tomorrow about this bit of internet fraud.

REM

I am sorry guys I have just have had some troubles lately bit I told you I was going to call the post office I havent been back on here since I last posted that because of work I will never be on trapperman again this is my goodbye and apology to everyone

You dont have to leave Tman because of one bad deal.