For those who need to pursue cases of internet fraud; the following link may be of some use. Also file with local authorities in the perpetrator's location.
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

I am pursing an issue on a fraudulent deal with TacDriver1: AKA Jordan White of Saginaw , Michigan. He advertised a used laptop for sale, acknowledged receit of payment, did not ship, and has since removed himself from the string of PMs thru this site. The published phone number for his address is incorrect and has been assigned to others more than a year ago. He appears to still live at 5700 Lessandro St. in Saginaw, but has not left any way of contacting him.

The person who identified himself as Jordan White has appearantly been taking money and goods from others on this site, using different names. The following from another T-man member:

He used to go under Snares101--busted
Then his next name was SnaresUSA---I think
Tacdriver if I am not mistaken is his third screen name.

BE FORWARNED.
Jordan White
5700 Lessandro St
Saginaw, Michigan 48603

Hey remrogers, I too bought this laptop and never seen it. His mom wrote me and said she would make it right. That was over a week ago. I put a dispute in with paypal, but I'm not holding my breath!!

If you deal with NJR, good luck, He agreed to buy a pistol from me & made all kinds of reason's not to pay or reply to email's not trust worthy, will not do what he says.

Silver Back aka
Cody Rhodes
york nebraska 68647
said he would be shipping books I paid for by postal money order sent 8-31-09 today is 10-10-09 no sign of the books yet he acknowledged receipt of payment weeks ago. I have sent him a couple of PMs since, one he read but he did not respond as to if he had any way of traking etc. when I asked where they were. the last one has not been read (I sent it to him earlier this week) Not sure if he is tring to scam me or what but will update if things turn out he fulfills his side. Also does anyone know of anyway to make the dates of PMs show up?

Update: Cody replied last night I guess his computer was broken, and The first one that he read and did not reply to he was at school. Asked him agian to see what he might be able to find out since I have nothing to show post office they were sent even.

Update: got the books (6 weeks + after payment was sent). Turns out Cody is 14. Said that he could not ship due to not having my address which was on the postal money order and the envolope it was sent in. He was able to use a computer at school, have the PM where he said the one that he read and did not respond to two weeks before shipping (shipped only after this was posted computer was replaced either the day I posted or the next coincidentally) was while he was at school. I would still not have a dealing with him again even though he finally came through and would recomend that anyone who is thinking about it contact his parrents as I feel if they had been involved this all could have been avoided.

CHARLIE V form ripon wisconsin, i ordered some snares from him and some sheeps wool and he sold the snares as 5ft. snares and they were maybe 4ft. and his gallonbag of sheeps wool turned out to be 1 1/2 quarts. i will never do business with this guy again, as i sent him pm and he removedhimself from the topic so apparently he don't care. all i wanted was an answer to why this happened but know answer. maybe it was an honest mistake but i don't hink so as i've had multiple pm's from other people who have had this same thing happen to them also. thanks for reading, jeremy!

Jeremy, there is gonna be a flood of posts on here saying how much of a stand up guy he is, but don't let them discourage you. If you feel he was in the wrong then stand your ground. I don't personally know him, but someone posted about him earlier and the people pretty much just called that person a liar. I don't know all the details but I know you should stand your ground untill a wrong is made right.

no problem

Well I'm here to back up Jeremy, Snares 5'= 60" not even close, Not even 3'. Plus the locks are junk and need to be fixed. I too Pmd would'nt respond, I had seen he had a bunch of good feedback thought he was okay. No more I don't do business like that why should he get away with it. For the guys that had good dealing great. But there's probably more that have'nt and didn't respond.

I can back up Jeremy and rustytrap on this one. My story may be far worse than a bad deal. If someone wants the truth about this guy pm me. Dave

Interesting that the negatives about Charlie V are starting to balance the postives. Plus Charlie V left T-man.

I wonder what's going on.......................

Jediknight

Don't forget to check the Neg FB's in the archives. Some of those slimeballs are still around.

i want to let you all know i cleared up my deal with pangborn

I recently tried to a deal with XXXXXXX. I'm not going to name names as it's not the first time it's happenned to me here. But this was one of the worst. And we all have probrably been a little guilty of something at sometime. Communication makes a big difference.

He had advertised some traps and I said I would take them and to please get me a shipping quote. That took a couple, three weeks, I guess he went hunting or busy in scholl or something! But by the the time of the whole process got to that point with all the messages I sent and the delays in getting back with me.

I was just too uncomfortable about send $150 to someone I had never done business to before. Let's face it, when you are feeling like "biting the bullet" Lil' Bit mentioned up there, it's time to STOP! Don't send that money order!

Let's look at what's happening out there.

1 Over half of the stolen stuff being sold on the 'net is stuff that kids or other family members are stealing from mom, dad or who ever.

2 Kid's at a certain age are still learning their own personal morals that will follow them through their lives. This is not always what their parents are teaching them but a combination of what they are expieriencing between home, siblings, school freinds, etc. If they learn they can easily sell stuff to you that came out of Dad's or gramps back shed, where does it lead.

3 Unfortunately a kid who's selling traps, aren't using them. So what are they using????

To enter into a transaction even unknowingly (as in the internet) without consent of the parent(s) can be undone at the very least.

How you feel if you bought your own traps that disapeared out of your shed here on trapperman? Here's the sinerio: your neighbors kid steals some traps from your shed, sells them to someone else here who later decides he doesn't need all he bought (which he probrably got a deal because the kid wanted them to sell real fast) so he puts them up for sale here.

Let's make sure before we buy anything from minors or make any large sales that mom and dad know. Get a phone number before sending a money order! If they don't take PayPal, WHY?

My question is: "how will any of us know not to deal with XXXXXX if we do not name names? If someone did you wrong or was suspicious, let us know, so we do not get shafted as well.

Hey Greg,
I agree with most of what you're saying however I deal with minors quite often and have been treated fairly. Maybe I have been lucky but I have not been taken. Communication is so important but I do not think I need to call the parents to OK our deals.
I personally do not accept PayPal and have had few problems with any deals on here because of it. You can look at the history on "Good Feedback" if you wish.
I agree with trapper4 that if you don't name the person you had the bad deal with you are setting us all up for the same thing to transpire.

Just my thoughts,

Jediknight

It may be the buyer feels a need to vent there bad deal but sees no point in using names due to the fact that everyone that has good deals with the seller will call them down on it. I know I have had a transaction on here that just seemed to put me on the short end, but after reading the bad feed back on the seller and the way everyone jumped in to defend the seller, I figured why bother.

I, along with lots of other trappers bought muskrat fleshing boards and stands from Muskrat in August. But as of today (Nov 2), I have received neither the fleshing boards, nor any explanation other than I will check into it, or this is nuts, or I am busy. I paid by paypal in early August. I am going to file a dispute on that but where is he?

Just another reason why I think the bad feedback board needs to be locked and folks with a bad deal can each PM Mod with their side of the issue and then if it is a bad deal or slow pay or slow deliver deal, the Mod can post the info on the bad feedback and it is done with no bickering. The bad feedback can be just like a person's credit report on here.

-TJ

Sounds like a good idea Top Jimmy.