Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: Redbonechick]
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12/15/09 04:16 PM
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I don't have any pics.
The set is basically two humps out in the water, one farther than the other and they have to step on the one to get to the other. You put a thin piece of sod on the pan. You have bait and/or lure on the farthest hump. I believe it's in Russ Carmen's book.
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: cndgmn]
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12/15/09 04:27 PM
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I've made them before with good results. Like already mentioned, Finding the right conditions is the hardest part. I have taken a water puddle with a 6-8' diameter. about 9" from the waters edge place your trap. Keep the entire trap just below waters surface. I then cut a couple pieces of moss about the size of the trap pan. Place the moss on top of the pan until it clears the water by about 1/2" (stack several layers if needed). About 9 inches from your trap toward the center of the puddle place a larger rock or fireplace log and put you bait or lure on that. Your Trap actually becomes a stepping stone for the critter to reach the bait.
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: Redbonechick]
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12/15/09 04:34 PM
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Jonathan
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I have never made this set, but recall reading about it back in the early 1950's, either in Fur, Fish And Game Magazine, or in a book by either E.J Dailey or Stanley Hawbaker. Versions of this set must be described somewhere by someone who has used and tried it with success - not sure where you might find it unless someone sees and chimes in on your post. If not, here is an account for making it from a 1909 book by Elmer Kreps that I found in my library. The Water Set For FoxThere is enough information in this article that you should be able to make one so that the set would be legal in CT. Jonathan
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: Jonathan]
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12/15/09 05:00 PM
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jonathan i dont have time to read that but man that book looks decent. saved it for further reading one night when i have time for the whole thing
red fox trapper wannabe.
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: lennitrapper]
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12/15/09 05:14 PM
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The set is described in Stanley Hawbakers book "Trapping North American Furbearers" haven't tried it but i would think it could connect.
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: wr otis]
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12/15/09 05:58 PM
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AND Water that doesn't freeze easily. That, I believe was the reason for the original concept at a Spring Seep.
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
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12/15/09 08:46 PM
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I use them in a lot of big ditches small creeks the bank has to be right not steep . Sometimes jus in a big mudhole I know is going to be there a week or two.
I TRAP PETA'S FRONT PORCH
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: 45/70]
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12/15/09 08:49 PM
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Jonathan
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Keep in mind that Redbone's restriction and limitation in CT is that no matter how the set is configured, the trap has to be completely underwater. That would be a challenging deviation from how this set is conventionally made. Ingenuity is in demand to be compliant with that regulation.
Jonathan
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: aprophet]
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12/15/09 08:53 PM
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Here is my set pic from this fall. This ist he remake, but this set caught a fox for me on the first night. My trap was bedded roughly 6-8" out from the land and the island I made was about 30" from land. Not a spring hole just a drainage pond, but it worked. My sod piece was just big enough to cover the trap pan also. I had a rat buried under the grass on my fake island and dobbins fox gland lure on the grass as well. Results
Last edited by ottertrapper; 12/15/09 09:01 PM.
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Re: Spring Hole Fox Sets
[Re: Jonathan]
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12/15/09 08:58 PM
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I have always had the trap underwater only the grass is above btw the grass wad is about 1/2" thick small enough to fit between the jaws of the trap . I think I learned from one of carmens books I learned it from marsyadas book water trapping and then carmen fine tuned it for me for the greys I trap I put the trap close to the shore 3-5 " and the bait stone maybe a foot or so from the trap
I TRAP PETA'S FRONT PORCH
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