#233753 - Today at 05:51 PM Re: BAD FEEDBACK [Re: Clinton]
I had my word to Piney (John) on the knives first and it did not look like John was going to come through on the deal. That is when I then contacted you about the knives and I apologize for doing so. I never confirmed with you on making a payment and held off on purpose to see if John was going to come through.



#123310 - 06/10/07 09:53 PM knives
Clinton
trapper
I'll take them if still available.


#123374 - 06/10/07 11:12 PM Re: knives
trapperbud
trapper
Clinton,

The knives are yours. I prefer money order. Total including shipping is $24.50. Thank you. Please let me know what you decide ASAP.

(Posted on trapshed)
#226885 - 06/11/07 08:00 AM Re: knives for sale [Re: frankb_ks]
trapperbud
trapper
Knives are sold to piney John pending payment


#123998 - 06/11/07 07:37 PM Re: knives
Clinton
trapper
Do you take Paypal? If not, how would you like to be paid?


#124003 - 06/11/07 07:40 PM Knives

trapperbud
trapper

Clinton,

A gentlemen messaged me earlier this morning and said that he would take them. He is sending me a money order. I am sorry that you did not get them. If something falls through on the deal I will surely let you know. Thank you


#233753 - Today at 05:51 PM Re: BAD FEEDBACK [Re: Clinton]
John contacted me today on the knives and says that he would still like them so that is why I have not gotten back in touch with you up until this point because I did not know up until this time.



Brief review,

06/10/07 09:53 PM I said I would take them.
06/10/07 11:12 PM You said they were mine.
06/11/07 08:00 AM You post sold on trapshed to someone else.(I had not seen this until a later date)
06/11/07 07:37 PM I contact you to verify payment arrangements.
06/11/07 07:40 PM You tell me they were sold that morning.
Today at 05:51 PM Your first attempt at clearing this up with me.

I personally feel this whole thing should have been handled differently but you would not return any pm's to me since 6/11 7:40pm.
From where I sit I have to suspect you sold them out from under me the next morning before I had a chance to get back to you. Less than 24 hours later I might add.

I will let others decide.

Heads up on GREATWHITEHUNTER, he made a deal and never followed through with it after he made the offer, when I asked him to ship first.

i happen to know greatwhite hunter and i read your pm's to him he offer you ALOT more in trade then you were asking for and then he say's he'd ship first but then you say if you dont like them your sending em back at his expense so he asked you if he could just send money insted so he didnt have to worry about you saying you didnt liek them so he'd get stiffed you wnated 1doz 1.5coils he offered you a few #4's 330's 160's 110's and #3's and #2's and each one of those traps you could get 2-3 1.5dukes for so i just wanted to set this strait i know he has had some problems in the past but it isnt fair he gets in trouble for somthing when he's helping some one out

Clinton,

You make your own judgements on me if you like but I am telling you and the whole trapperman.com community the truth. I did not sell these knives out from under you and if you don't believe me than you are no man to me. I hold to my word on the first person that contacts me. As I have already told you I do admit that I should not have jumped the gun on PineyJohn to not come through on the deal which is when I contacted you. The only reason that I let John hold to his end of the deal after the long delay is that he had a death in his family and since I have gone through the same thing recently, I know how it is when you are not right beside a computer and can not message people back right when they respond to you. If you would like why don't you message PineyJohn and ask him when he messaged me about the knives. I think that you will see that he did in fact contact me before you did on the knives and that is why he is the buyer and not you. It may seem to you like I sold them out from under you but all I can tell you is this, A man does not lie to a man. If you can't honor my word and the actions that I took in selling these knives than I have no more to say to you. All I can tell you is that is the way things worked out and that they should have worked out, and I don't think that I man can expect another man to do anymore than his best and to tell the truth. I did not recieve any additional messages from you on the knives since our first contact. I deleted your post to me, which I probably should not have done, and did not think to drop you a line back to let you know the situation. Most of the time I follow through with anybody and everybody that contacts me but it did slip my mind to write you a note back to let you know the situation that I was put in. I hope that you will understand the situation as I have described it and quit telling everybody that I do not honor my word. I honor everything that I sell and the fellow trappers that deal with me. I think that anybody that has ever bought traps or other hunting items from me will back me up on that. This was a wierd sequence of events that happened with these knives but I assure you that Piney (John) was the rightful and first buyer of the knives. No money ever exchanged hands on this deal between you and I and I don't think that you are out of anything but your time on this forum arguing with me and Frank. If anybody ever has any doubts about me just contact any of my other buyers: Frank, Piney (John), Junkman202, and many others that I can not even remember). I am not a braggart but I take pride in my honest and forthright transactions on the trapperman.com site. Anybody that would like to say otherwise speak up. Thank you

Hey Trapperbud,

Very well stated. It is obvious to me that the transaction occurred as it should have, and if "Clinton" is unable to see that, you should not waste any more time on the matter.

It is apparent to me that you are a young man with integrity. If other young men (and some older ones...LOL...) would take your behavior as an example of how to behave, there would be a lot less animosity here on the forum.

Be Well All,

Frank

CJB (Charlie Bunyan) Massilon Ohio

I paid him $55.00 for some traps almost two weeks ago and he has not sent me the traps. I pm'd him (at least 8 times)and he still will not answer any of these. He only lives about 4hrs from me so it should have only taken 3-5 days to get here. Deal with him at your own risk. I have notified his local Police department to take action against him for frauding me. They assured me that they will make contact with him and resolve it for me. He could have at least told if something had happened and sent the money back. BUYERS BEWARE

I got the traps in the mail Monday the 2nd of July, slow to deal with but they were in good shape.

Reference this kid's postings on me titled with my name 3-4 pages back on the Trap Shed. This one must live in a bubble. I sometimes receive stuff from fellas on here B4 I pay them/sometimes I send stuff out B4 I get paid. Just the night B4 my truck burned to the frame rails I stuck 5 traps in the bushes for a fella from Minerva OH to pick up on his way to work the next morning. I received the Minerva M/O and lonewolf's $56.00 m/o the same day a few days later. I see longstanding old names of members on here showing maturity and patience with people that it appears might be letting a deal go south. Some of these names belong to guys that were selling supplies and books and such back when I was a kid in the early 70s. Apparently these old salts are'nt conducting themselves properly. Who sends the cops to someone's home after 10 days? Will all you other guys that I've "defrauded" please speak up?

First of all this is no kid you were dealing with. Second you got your money order two days after we made the deal, that was in May, the last part of it(not sure of the exact date).I did not get my traps until July 2 that was around a month. You did not put on here or even reply to my pms that I sent you. I sent you about 7 or 8 pms over a 15 day period and did not get no reply. It was not until I sent the police to your resident that you responded and that took you a couple of days to respond. You only live 4hrs from where I am at. I think anybody on here would at least sent a pm that they were having problems and needed sometime or had somebody to do it for you(my opiion), that would have been understandable to me. Even after you made contact with me through a pm it took you almost two weeks to get it here. All said and done I will know better then to deal with you again. If this is what you called communication then you are the one that lives in a bubble.

lonewolf,,,I officially and publicly concede that you will always be a far superior hominid than I. The next guy that sends the fuzz to my home after a 10- 15 day delay is going to buy himself an additional 2 weeks delay just like you did. Again, I'd like to publicly request that all the other folks that I've "committed fraud against" please speak up.

You got the check in two days and them you told me you got it, why could you have not mailed them out that day or the next? The stuff that happened to you did not occur until a week later, there is still no excuse for not sending them out right then. You owed it to me and I got it, whatever it takes to get what I paid for I will do it. As far as your "Hominid" that would be you for acting this way. Still I would never deal with you again I have dealt with several on here and no problems but YOU.
P.S. This has gone far enough, It needs to stop here if you would like to comment pm me this is not the place for this and I refuse to get into any further battle with you everything is done and over let it die!!!!!

had a deal with SNAREWOMAN
SENT money may 15
just got traps today july 14
very slow delivery

I did get the quantity and quality of trap I had bought,
just upset about the delivery time.

In my defense I have been out of the country for the last 2 months. I had to fly back to Scotland on very short notice to deal with a serious family emergency. Sorry to anyone who bought traps but you all got what you paid for as soon as I got back. Sorry but the last thing on my mind was sending traps out.
I understand how upset you are but sometimes circumstances are beyond our control. As you can check I had not checked any pms as I was not near a computer.
Again Sorry to anyone who feels they were cheated but I got them out as soon as I could.
Snarewoman

A pity they do not have internet connectivity there in Scotland. A lot of anxiety could have been prevented.

A believe snarewoman is justified in a late delivery but I think she should have REALLY tried to find a computer and she COULD have let you know BEFORE she left!! It does not take that long to send a pm or two!

By the way sorry about you family issues!!

zack i dont mean to be rude but the family part could have been seriouse and she didnt even have the computer part on here mind you never know

A few months back I posted some bad feedback about Matt Smith. I just want to let folks know that he made good on our deal.

thanks bigpat for the chance to make that right. very sorry it took so long.

I was hoping I would not have to post this but I have given the man plenty of time to make good on the deal and he has not. mn_minkman "Lee Disse" and I were to make a trade, I sent him 10 Monty 1.5 dogless traps (one had broken jaws) He was supposed to have sent me 9 New Duke #4 4x4's, I sent him his traps back in June. He recieved his traps on 6/7/07. I have not recieved my traps as of yet, He told me several times that he was having trouble getting the traps. It did not bother me until after a couple months. I can understand someone having difficulties and all but in my opinion I have been fair enough in waiting this long in posting. I will remove this post if he sends me my traps.

I know how you feel. Jim Novak of Missouri, stealing as ( Fur Pirate) has been delinquent with me to the tune of $40, since December.