Appreicate the response guys. I agree with Bob though that the situation requires a much bigger action than just whacking a few
token bears. It'd be like taking a leak on a forest fire. Maybe
they should designate the area for "predator control" to give
the moose and 'bou a chance to get back on their feet.

I have never peed on a forest fire, but I bet Pete has LOL.

All in good fun guys.

We will be starting up here in a week or so... But you know what I think about eating the locals...

(local ducks Hup)

I don't blame Bob for not wanting to be over run with people. I feel exactly the same way myself and try to keep my area as I would prefer it. I also think a lot of the exchange was just good natured fun although it could be a serious offer.

I know the bears really are out of control in my country because it's so hard to hunt them. Guides don't hunt it because there's no where to land and set up a camp. The wolves exploded first and I think the bears found a buffett and started increasing in numbers from that point on. I do what I can but I'm only one guy. Can't make a big impact like that.

Graybill would have had the solution for sure. He and Pete Owens were responsible for nearly eliminating bears in the upper Holitna drainage, back in the early 70's

Deep Fried Ling cod, fried taters and baked beans,
It's what's for dinner! I love Alaska!

Oooooooo sounds great !

now thats a top shelf dinner i havent had ling in years.

Yep,
It was as good as it sounds! I think Huppy put away enough for everybody on his last run over here....

I got to pick the menu tonight and do the cooking.

Ak:
Perhaps I wan't clear. When I described the situation that you labeled complaining I was looking for constructive input that could be applied to established procedures in hopes of improvement. What I received was an offer from self invited guests that may or may not be of use depending on your goals and perspective. Anyone who has bonds with an area would understand the dangers of inviting a group of unknowns and its potential effects. My response was if and when I decide to assist a group it will be my choice who they are. You alone have made a portion of that decision very easy.
I have written letters to head of fish and game regarding this issue and sent them video's showing calf kills by bears and attended several advisory board meetings as an active participant in the bear issues. I have also persuaded several long time residents of the area to make Game & Fish aware of the problem. If that is your idea of a do nothing complainer so be it.

PP,
By hooters, do you mean new Suzuki's???
Priorities man, priorities...

Is it puffin season yet??? I want to whack some puffins and scooters...

She should be saving for a new pair of Zukes! She has her priorities and I want both.. lol! I edited part of that post so the breakfast crowd wouldn't get too disturbed. But what the hey!

I don't think we can take puffins until around April. I would have to check the subsistence regs. But scoters we got! Mostly blacks but quite a few surfs too. I haven't seen many whitewings. Flying tanks is what they are! Go BB or go home!

one of each Greg, one of each....lol..

at elast you would be able to use the "zukes everyday YOU want to........

lol..

But what about the weather days? A man has to have something to keep him occupied! I am looking at it as just another recreational investment. lmao.....

UB. I have enjoyed your posts for quite some time, but find this newest "thread" confusing. There is little doubt that effective hunting pressure would reduce bear numbers in your area. If that is indeed your desire, I don't understand your reluctance to assist the situation.
Granted, some may come across as overzealous, but I think most, or all here, are responsible, ethical hunters and trappers. I seriously doubt you would be lacking for respect and admiration of your area.
I won't go into biological probabilities as to how effective a concentrated hunt for sows would be, as it seems pretty obvious. However, if reducing bear #'s is really your priority, it seems to me that opening up you Xanadu for a week to people you communicate with almost daily would be a small price.
You say you have been in talks with ADFG at the highest levels to help the situation, which, to me, indicates that you believe hunting can be part of the solution, and I concur. I also think the BOG thinks along the same lines, (ie. intensive management). However, as can be seen in most predator control areas, hunter participation is a vital component for it to work. If you REALLY want to reduce bear #s in your neck of the woods, it can be done, with a little help from your friends. If not, .......

I'd think a person would want to have some "control" over who comes in and out of "their" area. And with the way it is currently set up, UB would/could. At least establish ground rules and expectations and such.

However, if he gets his way and they open that area up for an "every year" hunt....he'll have EVERYBODY in his backyard going after bears, and no "control" over it.

As the old saying goes, be careful what you ask for...you just might get it...

AV:
Good points but let me hopefully clarify a few things. I have spent some time within the framework trying to deal with this issue and ran up against the BOG as a roadblock because of there apparent unalterable stand on making this a trophy bear area. If the BOG viewd unit 9 as anything other than a trophy area why the restrictive every other year every four year regs without data to back them up?
Even with the numbers at my front door and the ease of take I doubt if more than two or three could be taken in the immediate area before the rest would exit. I have experience with exactly that.
My real delima is assisting the take process in a manner I'm satisfied with. If its not clear by now let me make it very clear there is only one person that makes that selection process and that is me. I have a long line of friends and relatives that have endured years of my over protection and they will be first to be asked during the next legal season. There are people on this forum that I would consider any time if it were not for the fact I have a long line formed years before I received this latest offer. No amount of cyber selection pressure will change that. It was an enjoyable game to play until I felt the pressure. I sincerely hope it is not viewed as anything other than what I tried to make it. I wanted input regarding solutions. It appears to me anyone not invited assumes I will not do anything and that is simply incorrect. I've brought other hunters in here in the past and will do it in the future. Without offending anyone I just want to make it very clear I do not need assistance in that process. You are correct when you say the numbers can be reduced with help from my friends and my friends list has been in place for a long time and includes some very known entity's. If and when that list is exhausted there are some very easy choices on this forum I would not hesitate to contact. The point is there have been people hunting here that were very effective and that will continue but I don't think it unreasonable to select from my list vs a self appointed internet steering committee. If you review this thread I don't think you will find where I solicited on site help. If it came across that way my apologies.

Very good point. I hadn't thought of that, but I'd imagine that would be true (as with most game).




I assure you no offense take. I ABSOLUTELY understand your reasoning and position. And I do apologize for jumping on you w/o the knowledge of your efforts. I didn't mean to attack...okay, maybe a little...but it was with the lack of the current information you have now shared.




No apologies needed. I just wanted to offer a solution and available entities. I see you have that covered.

I apologize.

Now go get some more cool photos!!

I agree with Alaskan's last statement... Let's see some more of those pictures!

The photos are fantastic.

Well I'm glad we cleared the air like adults so we can back to acting like children. No reason we can't have a little fun with this. Looks like the great growler siege of 2010 took on a new dimension last night. At least one of the problem children tried to get in our living room window right next to my wifes computer and needless to say she is totally freaked out. From there he went to the back of our place and tried to get in a smaller window. Can't believe I missed that but the high winds and rain didn't help. Since they ate both my bear alarms I went to the neighbors to borrow one for tonight.
The incredible part is he managed to crack open the larger front window without busting the screen. Really concerned about this not just for the obvious but the fact a large broken window this time of year isn't the easiest thing to get here.
The other issue is I've had a small scrawny three year old in the yard that has been doing most of the damage. I also shot a large black bear in the rear with a flare round on our gray water hole. I assumed the window thing was a three year old but the paw prints were 8" on both windows and that would be a very healthy three year old. Only one way I know to insure I get the correct one.
What is more amazing is they have been everywhere the last week but once your ready for a little DLP they are nowhere.