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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2257202
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I know at least 3 guide outfits over that way have grazing permits and just turn horses loose during the off season but ideally they are all present and accounted for and being used during hunting season. Sometimes there are 'runaways' and of course there is the mystery of the disappearing 'buggy' caretaker .


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2258774
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Yesterday I went for a walk on an animal reserve (Grr so much area I cant trap) and I saw some trap markers on trees off the trails I went to have a look and there was a fallen tree nailed to another tree. I looked around and saw tracks but no signs of human activity. Would this because they are old marking and such or could they be something different? Just wondering because there is alot of people walking in that area and if someone were to get hurt then there might be serious penalties to that trapper.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2259189
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Where is there an animal reserve in Fairbanks?

-TJ


Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: Gabriiel40] #2259319
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Originally Posted By: Gabriiel40
Yesterday I went for a walk on an animal reserve (Grr so much area I cant trap) and I saw some trap markers on trees off the trails I went to have a look and there was a fallen tree nailed to another tree. I looked around and saw tracks but no signs of human activity. Would this because they are old marking and such or could they be something different? Just wondering because there is alot of people walking in that area and if someone were to get hurt then there might be serious penalties to that trapper.


Sounds like a pole set.Generally used for marten with a very small trap. If it is a marten trap it would be pretty hard for someone to get hurt unless they stuck their tongue in it or something stupid like that. Try going to an ATA meeting and talk to somebody there about what you saw and your concerns.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2259409
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ok ty just dont want anyone getting hurt or someone getting in trouble.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2259843
11/24/10 10:47 PM
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Gabriiel... could you describe what a "trap marker" is or possibly even post a picture. Maybe that would help us to understand and explain what you saw. It sounds a bit out of the ordinary.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2259979
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I assumed (I know) that he meant a blaze on the tree.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2260036
11/25/10 01:10 AM
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It'll be interesting to see, White. I suspect something else.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2260037
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Development on topic ?


Just doing what I want now.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2260896
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Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I love this site. I might not post much on here but I am usually on here everyday looking at everyones catches and trying to learn as well on here. Trapping been kinda slow here with the warm winter that we have had down here. I have caught two cross fox and three reds, as well as two beavers. I wanted to share a few photos on here of some fur been sewn into hats and mitts by my wife. She bought a sheared beaver pelt and put them on insides of the hat. I really like that a lot as its a lot nicer on the ears and side of face than just a regular beaver pelt.



And this is our pet Mesa modeling an otter hat.




Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: Top Jimmy] #2261026
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Originally Posted By: Top Jimmy
Where is there an animal reserve in Fairbanks?

-TJ

The question has been asked and the answer is..........??? Gabriiel40?

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: dogmusher] #2261037
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Originally Posted By: dogmusher
....sheared beaver pelt and put them on insides of the hat. I really like that a lot as its a lot nicer on the ears and side of face than just a regular beaver pelt.


What a great idea. I have noticed that the guard hairs are irritating. I have my mom's old sheared beaver parka and I have been wondering what I was going to do with the good parts of it....Now I know! Thanks.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2261101
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Read this today:

http://www.adn.com/2010/11/24/1571885/governor-energy-authority-endorse.html


If they can produce electricity for about 6 Cents a KiloWatt, how much would it end up costing the homeowner ?

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2261132
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Better wait for Hoopy and TJ to answer that one. I would like to see how they calculated that 6 cents and what costs they excluded to get there.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2261183
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There is no better power for cheap rates than OLD hydro.
That said, incurring the costs now, like in Juneau, people aren't happy, but in 10-20 yrs they will be crappin in high cotton.

This project, I doubt could be done and produce 6 cent kWh power. I do not see how.

People in the rail blet are going to be paying a metric crap ton for power and Nat gas in the near future.

there are like 6 electric utilities in the rail belt.
of which 5 are building NEW or expanding power plants, because we have such a cob jobbed archaic network of generation here. Everyone's rates are going to go up as a result of the new rate base. and it isn't going to be cheap.

Enstaris working on a Natural Gas Storage well right now, so they can meet peak demand in winter and hopefully buy gas cheaper in the summer than at peak rates in winter.
The costs of the reservoir, along with transportation, a new pipe, and loss from the storage are going to cost a bunch.
The gas is used to heat and produce power and all rates are going to be alot higher..


This State really screwed the pooch years ago, by not doing an instate gas line to supply the electric and gas companies.
They also screwed up by allowing there to be 6 utilities for such a small population. With each having to have their won plant and many many redudant expenses that each utilities rate payers have to pay. If there was one or two large power suppliers, those redundant expenses could be done away with, and the rate base and costs would be spread over a much larger rate payer base as well.

But for some reason, no one either had the foresight or the ambition to do such. Everyone was disillusioned by the era of cheap cook inlet natural gas prices that are now done with. or perhaps it was the hippies that ki bashed the healy coal plant, the losers in Palmer who wouldn't allow MEA to build a power plant, all the NIMBY folks, the bunny huggers etc.

I am thinking of putting in a wood stove for winter heat, because I am afraid rates are going to be so high, it will be unbearable to do.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2261190
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to answer the question, they probably went ont he assumption that the state invests the money at a zero sum gain, that is no return on the "investment", and probably more so, considered it a "gift".....

In which case, you end up with like before the Bradley Lake project, where the rest of the State who didn't benfit from the States' capital outlay saying "they got something, what do we get?"
Which is what the PCE program was born from, to give the people not in the rail belt their share.


Originally Posted By: Malukchuk
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2261227
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I suspect they also didn't include the opportunity costs of the 2 billion the state would put up and we all know that over 11 years of construction the cost of the dam and all facilities will at least double.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: Gabriiel40] #2261920
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Originally Posted By: Gabriiel40
Yesterday I went for a walk on an animal reserve (Grr so much area I cant trap) and I saw some trap markers on trees off the trails I went to have a look and there was a fallen tree nailed to another tree. I looked around and saw tracks but no signs of human activity. Would this because they are old marking and such or could they be something different? Just wondering because there is alot of people walking in that area and if someone were to get hurt then there might be serious penalties to that trapper.



Could they be talking about Creamers Field? If so there are or (were) a certain amount of trappers allowed to trap by permit....at least that was my understanding when F&G explained it to us.

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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2262033
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yeeah thats what im talking about. sorry didnt answer earlier was a little busy. ty for reply

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2262133
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It's nice to see you Huntress! We have been wondering about you and Jim. How is your season going?

Oh, thanks for the reply grin

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