Beaver - How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Maybe nobody cares....or already knows this. But I used to have "troubles" when it came to putting up beaver. Knicks, holes, slices, and finally tearing as I take them off the boards. Really trying to take my time this year....and I was bored the other night too. Open to any and all feedback and criticism. Its a lot of work, and I'm open to anything that may help my put up.  SO.....here we go. Skin some beaver and make sure they're dry....  Got a little behind on skinning, and this female was a bit warm by this time, if you can't tell by the fatty areas around the head and front legs. But it dried fine and no worries. I hook the nose on the board first. Tried the whole "case skin the head out" thing, and it just seemed to slow me down. But maybe its worth it.  Guess I try and rip a little "relief" on each edge of the beam first, then clean up the middle of the back....like this....    And clean up the hind end in the process. Probably the worst of it in my opinion. But get it looking something like this...  I then put it nose down and clean up the head and cheeks. I have a feeling I do more than needed here, but I think it helps them dry better, and an extra minute or two helps with the look of the pelt, at least to me.  Then, keep the center of the pelt on the nose of the beam, and work the "easy" stuff out towards the edges. Seems to help keep things cleaner for me. Like this...   Finally, I hook the head back on and squee-gee off as much of the white, liquid fat "stuff" as I can. Also, cleans off any scraps.  Now....to shoot the thing onto the board. I guess I do it the hard way and eyeball it. I'm just stubborn and that's what I do...but maybe the equation thing actually works for some. I shoot the bottom on first, then pull the nose up. Then work the sides out and make sure I picked the right line. IMPORTANT....If a pretty girl is texting you, it is CRUCIAL that you keep your phone on the board   Then, kind of like the star pattern when tightening lug bolts, I work my way around the bottom 3/4 of the beaver. I usually do the head last, guess because it seems like that area would be the most forgiving if my skinning was a little off. Anyway, sort of like this....    Any little tags, I try to clean up like this. Also, I usually trim the lips and nose too. Not always, but depends on how the beaver shoots on. I think it does help the pelt dry and look nice.   Not sure if this is best, but I pinch, staple, and trim the leg holes, like this...   
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Awesome post MNCedar!!! Your put up job looks good! I flesh a touch differently then you do, but i think it all comes down to personal preference. Have you found that the staples are a pain to pull out when you pull the pelts off the board? I use nails myself and have thought about staples, but i am just too gun shy you could say to do it LOL.
Here is a tip for anyone making beaver boards, make sure that when you stenciling on your ovals, alternate the colors of each ring. This way it is a lot easier to follow.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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looks like you get an A . Good to see its about taking pride in ones work and not about economics . I vote this post to the archives ...Tom
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Thank you for the educational beaver fur put up. Great job
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Using your method,how long does it take to flesh and board a blanket?
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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not a chance!! i'm alergic to them things  and if i hadta flesh that many, my forearms would look like yours and i don't need hot chicks chasin me no more 
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Looks like a real nice job Cedar. It might be a little easier if you do make a size chart for yourself though. I just hang the fleshed pelt from a nail and measure from nose to base of the tail. Anything 42" or more is a blanket (XXL), 39"-41" is an XL, etc.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Would you be able to use a long enough staple with the pneumatic gun so that you can raise the pelt a little....? Cedar I tried it in my gun (now mine is a small cheap gun so others might be diffent) and it wouldnt shoot a long enough staple to make it worth the effort. I do custom fur put up for some fur buyers down here and my drying room has a a dehumidifier , air conditioner, heater and fans so I can really regulate the temp and such in my room and do my best to keep it 65 degrees with the humidity as low as possible (not easy to do down here most of the time) now with I staple and leave the hide touching the board I average 5 days on the boards (somtimes I can get them off in 4) on my boarded beavers and 4 on hooped ones, when I was hammering and pulling the hide off the boards I could probly take all of them off in 4 but when I nailed I would have at least an inch of space between the beaver and the board
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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How about them metal stretchers, the pros and cons as I havent put up a beaver but getting setup to chase them.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Good job on the fleshing, stretching and this thread.
Some of the things I've learned over the years from Canadians are:
When fleshing do not try to flesh the whole length of any pelt be it beaver, otter or coon. Do it in sections-with beaver I put the center of beaver on end of beam and flesh outwards-from back to belly. Then work my way around-this way ones fleshing stroke is only 10-15" at the most and by working from the back to belly the toughest part is always closest to you except when doing the tail.
Would like to see a more oval stretch-yours look pretty round-I've used the Canadian patterns for over 35 years. To know what pattern to use on a specific beaver hang the fleshed beaver by the nose on a nail-measure the length. Add to it 1/2 the length + 2" on smaller sizes, 3" on mid sizes and 4" on larger sizes. So if hanging it measure 30" add 15" + 2" equals 47" so use the Medium ring. If 36" add to this 18" + 3" equals 57" which is the Large ring. If it measures 45" add 22" + another 4" equals 71" which is Super Blanket or XXL ring. All this said, I understand the sizes on bottom end have changed slightly so my patterns/familiarity are from the 1970's. At a recent convention where Greg Schroeder was demoing beaver he stated that now one should stretch them even longer by using the next size larger for length and the next size smaller for width.
I understand if one has many, many beaver to do that staples are the fastest for boarding but I've always been a hammer/nail(8 penny CC) guy because I can raise the beaver halfway up the nails which helps them dry faster, makes the fur/underfur feel fluffier-more loft plus the nails will bend inwards when leather drys if initially stretched too tightly.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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How about them metal stretchers, the pros and cons as I havent put up a beaver but getting setup to chase them. wolf the metal hoops work good to me they are slower to put beaver one but they dry faster and you can put a beaver up on them with the hide totally wet I use both when i have a bunch ready to put up and in my room I can hang 3 strait up and down off each other most of the time they dry faster but its harder IMO to get the oval shape and board probly 3 to each one I put on a hoop (but iv using an air stapler on my boards also and Iv got a table i build just to board beaver on so basicly all I have to do is take a step back when I get to the corners of the boards and step back up when the corner is past me)
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Looks like you have It down pat. You might try and start at the middle of the hide. Just center the hide over the end of the beam. Then that's all you have to do is keep turning the hide as you flesh. I find It a lot easier to control the hide with this method. No need to to raise the hide off the board.
Nice job
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Nice looking beaver put up. Thanks
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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Guys there was a question asked earlier regarding...would a hole in the middle of the board accelerate the drying process? Any thoughts? Couldnt hurt probably but its easier to lift the hide up the nails to allow air to circulate between the hide and board.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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MNCedar, Great job. Great post. This past season I drilled a series of 3/4 inch holes around the center of one of my boards. I use staples. Pelt dried faster. I am planning to do that to the rest of my boards this year.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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This past season I drilled a series of 3/4 inch holes around the center of one of my boards. I use staples. Pelt dried faster.... Do you double board them....one on each side? Would it still speed it up that way?
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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i have a "crown stapler" that i use at work, it shoots an inch and a half staple.they are pretty heavy guage....might work well for beaver to slide the pelt up off the board
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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As to the hole in the center of the board, I have one board with a hole in the center, I wish I could put it back. It does make the pelt dry faster, but I clean skin my beaver, then nail them on the board or sew on a hoop. Then I scrape them with an old ice cream scooper (don't ask, its what my dad used and what his dad used, it works good is all I'll say) to get the milky fat out of the hide and any spots I missed while skinning. The edges around the hole (I put the center back in to scrape but there is still an edge) you have to be careful of when scraping or you can rip a hole, especially if there happens to be a scar right at the edge. If you are doing all your fleshing on a beam and not scraping once on the board the hole in the center wouldn't be a problem, and like I said it does make them dry faster, though still not as fast as hoops.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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i have a "crown stapler" that i use at work, it shoots an inch and a half staple.they are pretty heavy guage....might work well for beaver to slide the pelt up off the board I think that's the best option. Don't think you'd be able to slide them up. But they would board quick and the staples would PULL quick too.
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Re: How I Flesh and Board Beaver....PIC Heavy
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if you would grind down the driver in your staple gun they will stick up a little/ they will be easier to grab.??? take the top off and pull out the piston. and take a little off Depending on the air stapler you can hold back the safty pull the trigger and hold it. The driver should stay out as long as you hold the trigger in.
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