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The great double longspring thread! #2633284
07/04/11 10:20 PM
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Minnesota
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You hear so much about coilsprings today that I think some people wouldn't think of using/shun DLS's for coon,mink,fox,yotes, and cats. I would like this thread to help trappers learn to use these great tools on their line. Lets get talking bout sizes,brands,uses,modifications etc !


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Fox:2
Coyote:
Raccoon:2
Muskrat: 6
Possum:3
Skunk:3
Squirrel: Many
Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2633304
07/04/11 10:39 PM
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I think most people prefer to use them either in water sets or exposed sets for cats so they don't need to work much at bedding them. That said they can be used at just about any set a coilspring can be used at, you just need to dig a bigger trap bed. As far as current production longsprings I think sleepy creeks are one of the better brands, with their 4.5 longspring in a class of its own when it comes to current production(but still affordable) longsprings.

Last edited by Seth Doty; 07/04/11 10:43 PM.
Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2633317
07/04/11 10:48 PM
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No doubt a great trap for sure..but when your running a serious line, time Is money and most don't wanna take that extra time bedding a trap when you could just use a coil spring....just my two cents.

Great water traps though..they have there spot on everyone's line.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2633319
07/04/11 10:50 PM
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For the $$, a #3 Victor or B&L with a PIT Pan System installed is still a far cheaper option than the Sleepy Creek.

As Seth said though, I only own them for my cat line (exposed sets). I have no use for longspring traps otherwise. Coils are just easier.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2633324
07/04/11 10:56 PM
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I just bought some used victor 3's and 4's to try this year.
I base plated them and put a d ring on them. I'm also putting new USA chain on them and a few crunch proof swivels.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2633331
07/04/11 11:11 PM
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I really Like my B&L #3's for coyotes. For me it is toss up in time setting them. You dig a bigger bed but they bed solid quickly. The longsprings come up through snow and any crust that sometimes freezes over top. With the springs outside and no levers it seems that their paw is not as crowded when the trap trips.

Besides with our long deer seasons here in the CWD zone, there something to be said about cruising the woods with muzzleloader and longsprings in hand.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: jayirvinh] #2633727
07/05/11 02:19 PM
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[quote=stealthbear]when i make a bed for these longspring i just claw out a couple of trenches for the springs with a claw hammer. the dirt ya claw up is there to pack over them and it really does not take any more time to bed a coil then a long

I agree, plus the 2 springs help in stablizing the trap.

Last edited by bctomcat; 07/06/11 02:56 PM.

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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2634079
07/05/11 07:10 PM
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Ive always thought the LS bedded much easier than the CS.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2634515
07/05/11 11:30 PM
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For me they come through cold freezing condition better springs don't freeze down.
The longsprings have caught countless animals personal preference is my excuse.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: ] #2634590
07/06/11 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rick Federation
Why is it a lot of cat trappers prefer LS over coil springs?
Because cats are a 'High Value Target' and Long Spring Traps are the Best. DLS traps don't need 4 coils or base plates,as they work fine the way they have been made for two hundred plus years. As previously stated,they bed nicer,and they last forever if taken care of. Charlie


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: lbtrapper] #2634682
07/06/11 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: lbtrapper
No doubt a great trap for sure..but when your running a serious line, time Is money and most don't wanna take that extra time bedding a trap when you could just use a coil spring....just my two cents.

Great water traps though..they have there spot on everyone's line.


It does'nt take anymore time to bed a Double Long Spring than a coil spring trap.
In most cases its faster. Cause they bed easer.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2634990
07/06/11 01:33 PM
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Nobody has yet mentioned the #11's???



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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635154
07/06/11 03:54 PM
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or the duke #5.
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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635207
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Thought they were both Double Long Spring traps


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635408
07/06/11 07:43 PM
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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635571
07/06/11 09:29 PM
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If I didn't have to use rubber padded traps on land my whole trapping inventory would be all double long springs. I've had a few situations where the coils were frozen with a track on the pan needless to say I'm working on getting rubber pads on a few of my long springs.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: jayirvinh] #2635690
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Originally Posted By: stealthbear
Of course I'm the self proclaimed longspring man i I like longsprings of all sizes. I use steel screen pan covers on victor 3-N's for coyote.

I put PIT #1 pans on the num 3's and PIT #7 on the num 4s. I install crimp on center locators and swivels on both 3 and 4s.
Sometimes i do a miles trigger on the ones i do not install pit pans on

I base plate and laminate many of them in my shop when i feel like it, a few every year. Ive tryed the preformed lamination kits with round stock and the JC connors cold rolled flat stock and the flat is much easier for me to weld onto a trap jaw.

some of my #3 victor longsprings had regular jaws and I replaced them with sleepy creek OS jaws to be legal on land here in Oregon.
I like twist link and machine chain with swivels at the trap mid and end on 18 to 36 inches of chain.

My number 4 1/2 sleepy creeks are have the jaws laminated and slip on pans made from electric box covers for exposed pan sets. I modified them with heavy long chains for mountain lion. when and if I get a lion on my property killing sheep i can set these traps for it. I also purchased a #5 sleepy creek double longspring for cougar and like it just as it came except I had to cut the teeth off and smooth the jaws to be legal in Oregon.

when i make a bed for these longspring i just claw out a couple of trenches for the springs with a claw hammer. the dirt ya claw up is there to pack over them and it really does not take any more time to bed a coil then a long

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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635721
07/06/11 10:50 PM
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Back when i started out trapping we couldn't afford six different sizes or styles of traps. After looseing some coons in the 1 1/2 single longs i went to the #2 double long and caught everything from muskrat to coyote in them, they are a most versatile trap, and a good choice if you want to have a few traps left at camp.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635725
07/06/11 10:52 PM
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Why are DLS a lot more money then a coilspring? MB550=$16 #3 DLS=$20 ???


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2011-2012 Catch Totals:
Fox:2
Coyote:
Raccoon:2
Muskrat: 6
Possum:3
Skunk:3
Squirrel: Many
Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #2635790
07/06/11 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Snares&All
Why are DLS a lot more money then a coilspring? MB550=$16 #3 DLS=$20 ???



Probably because the springs on longsprings cost more to produce and are harder to do right. You figure a lot of guys replace the springs on their coilsprings right away and most are not going to be that upset if the springs weaken and need replacing again in 3-4 years or so. On the other hand if a number of the springs on their new longsprings need replacing in 3-4 years most are not going to be very happy with that. Longsprings need to last better. Also not as many longsprings are made anymore which doubtless helps drive up production costs.

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