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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2851305
11/25/11 10:30 PM
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Some of the most useful information I have purged from these studies is the locations these females choose to den up. Man, they find places that are beyond remote. Absolutely no access to a trapper, for certain.
The idea that they become vulnerable to trappers due to limited mobility is absurd.
Unfortunately, this didn't really dawn on anyone, including myself, at the time the shortened seasons were recommended.
After further thought and "re-con", I don't believe it's a very reasonable thing to impose. What I have determined is that trappers can provide far more reliable data and "on the ground" information than most of these snap-shot studies.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2851468
11/26/11 12:25 AM
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Interesting stuff. While I cant say for certain that the wolverine travel more in my area in late Feb. early March, I do see more sign and catch more then. Maybe they just start using that area more, but sure seems to me they travel a lot more then. I do catch more males than females, but its the same with all members of the weasel family..... males travel more.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2852735
11/26/11 10:24 PM
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nakota how did you stake your trap to the tree on the leaning pole set.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2852776
11/26/11 10:43 PM
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Nwt trapper, I used a wolf snare, I now wrap the snare around the leaning tree to shorten it for they don't touch the ground.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2852905
11/26/11 11:41 PM
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but the one picture showed a conibear how did you fasten it.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2853029
11/27/11 12:55 AM
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Its hard to see but I wired each spring to a branch.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854602
11/27/11 10:01 PM
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well i went out on saturday and camped out there and checked the snares this morning and i got skunked by a wolverine he visited every set i had and took all the bait and the conibear on the picture at the beginning of this the milk crate he snapped my trap and then ate the bait so i wired one side of the spring to the crate and same to the other side and rebaited everything and set in 2 more conibears out for him. he had made his own back door to some of my sets so i left it like that and put in a 280 to block it off. so hopefully next weekend ill have him in one of the traps and next weekend i have a week off so i am going to be staying out there for a week and go after them hard.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854623
11/27/11 10:11 PM
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If it was me, I'd get rid of that milk crate or at least put it right on the ground or better yet, on a leaning pole so he doesn't have a good place to stand and mess with the trap. I'd also straighten out those trigger wires. Get him in a position where he needs his feet under him to balance rather than using them to pull on the trap.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854635
11/27/11 10:16 PM
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alright Ill try that next weekend and ill take a picture of the modified trap set next weekend and ill try it on a leaning pole set with bait wired on the tree and ill get rid of the crate. White17 do you have any tips on how to set a 280 on the leaning pole i havent ever done that before and i dont have any 330 yet the place im buying from still dont have any in yet. thanks for the tip also.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854667
11/27/11 10:23 PM
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Listen to the wise ones that share with you on this site. They want you to succeed. They helped me with my first gulo. Took me 2 years, but would NOT have happened without the help provided here.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854672
11/27/11 10:24 PM
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Well I think you can go ahead with the milk crate on a leaning pole. Just wire the crate securely to the pole. I'd use the smallest pole that will hold the crate, maybe 4 inches in diameter.

You can cut a small block of wood that fits the space between the jaws of the 280. Nail the block to the leaning pole and the squeeze the jaws onto the block. That will hold the trap upright. I would disguise the trap a bit with a branch or two over/around it.

Am i confused or what ? That trap in the crate appears to have three jaws ?


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: alaska viking] #2854683
11/27/11 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: alaska viking
Listen to the wise ones that share with you on this site. They want you to succeed. They helped me with my first gulo. Took me 2 years, but would NOT have happened without the help provided here.


+1 I would not have caught the wolverine I did without the wealth of knowledge in the archives. I still have a lot to learn though and have gotten some really good advice I plan on putting to use soon.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854706
11/27/11 10:32 PM
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i have caught two wolverines last year both being the first i have ever caught and this year i tried the milk crate set and i guess i cant get this one working. I will take all the advice to get this wolverine because he had snapped this trap i think he is going to be a lot more smarter about the traps that i have and going to be tougher to get in a trap so next weekend ill put the crate on a leaning pole and have a block of wood to hold the trap upright and try it that way and maybe a foothold underneath. in case he doesnt commit to climbing.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854723
11/27/11 10:37 PM
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I would make a separate set altogether with the footholds. Give him something different to look at. One thing about these guys is that once they beat you and get a meal they will keep coming back. They may beat you again but eventually they become arrogant and that's when you get them. The become so sure of themselves that something just a bit different will put their lights out.


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854819
11/27/11 11:04 PM
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alright well i will make a different set with the foot holds close by and ill make it a bit different such as putting it on the leaning pole. thanks white17 for all the help.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854823
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It's probably worth what you paid for it :-))


Good luck!


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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2854872
11/27/11 11:23 PM
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probably worth it and this is most likely the same wolverine that was here last year. I had a trap set at the creek last year and it was milk crate but only difference was that it was on the ground but a weasel and a bird got caught in the trap so im thinking that is how he become smart about the trap and pulled the trap out and snapped it and then ate the bait. So i am thinking that this wolverine will be a tough one to catch if i am correct about this wolverine.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2855115
11/28/11 02:40 AM
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Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2855152
11/28/11 03:58 AM
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I got a question about snaring snaring fox? Do you need to boil the snares before you set it and treat the snare as if it is a wolf snare? Or does it not matter about scent and other stuff I figured id ask on this tread rather then starting another one. thanks for all the help.

Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243] #2855155
11/28/11 04:03 AM
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No you dont need to boil snares for fox I have caught wolves with unboiled snares as well. its a good idea to wipe the grease off so it dont get on the fur.

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