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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: newhouse114] #2920590
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Originally Posted By: newhouse114
"Some one dried their beaver in freezing weather."

If you are refering to mine, NOPE, just the way I flesh them!


You got that paper white leather by using a certain fleshing method? Really.........Really? Thats odd. The ONLY time I have seen leather turn BRIGHT white is when dried in freezing weather.

Very curious care to share how you do it. Not criticizing just curious.

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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: newhouse114] #2920596
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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: watarrat] #2920614
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Originally Posted By: watarrat


Is that thing for real?! what happened to the back leg holes?

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: WST] #2920624
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It's a seal!!

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2920642
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I hope you wanna explain your fleshing methods then!
mine are dark too!

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921033
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First, I clean skin. After putting about 16 nails in the skin to keep it snug, I literally shave the entire skin with a VERY sharp knife. After shaving I go over it with a paintscraper to get as much moisture/grease out of the skin as possible. I dry in a 8x6x4 enclosure with two fans and 500 watts of IR lighting as a heat source. The relative humidity of coastal Oregon in the winter runs about 90% so the fans and heat are an absolute nessecity. It sounds like a lot of extra work but I still finish beaver start of skinning to last nail in less than 45 minutes, usually closer to half an hour. I taught beaverpeeler this method about 35 years ago and he does a comparable job. As his catch went up into the hundreds, I did notice a slight tendancy on his part to "get a little lazy" on the put up!! LOL


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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921055
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When handling beaver watch out for the false knife cuts(scores on leather side).Also use the line patterns given out by the auction house to get the proper stretch.The bright white color on the otherwise darker leathered skins(early)can be a result of overstretching(looks like frost dried)Frost scraping is OK if you have the climatic conditions to make it work properly but stay away from frost drying.Also remove the entire ear and cartilage-only takes a couple seconds when boarding (pelts will dry faster and stack better).I close the holes like leg holes but that is not necessary.

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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921645
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Evidently NAFA appreciates the way I handle beaver as shown by my STACK of top lot awards!


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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921683
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Alright yall,
I keep drying beaver on the boards and I think they're dry. Then I take them off and they curl into kind of a u during the next week. My thinking is they must not be dry enough when I take them off. I am stapling them on the boards. Do I need to nail them and lift a little to get more air? I been wondering this and trying to get it worked out. I have a pretty good pile of beaver that are all in a slight u shape. It's annoying the crap outta me. Thanks
Ty

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921926
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Just stack 'em leather to leather and fur to fur and they flatten right out.


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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921939
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Quite often Ive moved unboarded beaver from drying area into cold storage and at times they bent up in a U like you said/ If it bugs you get a piece of plywood and set in onto your stack of hides that should keep them flat

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: trapperkeck] #2921951
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Originally Posted By: trapperkeck
Originally Posted By: SDAhunt
Wow...looks like you need some more practice, I've got about 21 in the freezer you can practice on.... wink

Seriously, how do you get it so clean especially around the face like that
The bigger question would be "Why do you flesh the head so good?" It's not necessary...... Beaver, like coon, should be fleshed from the back of the ears on down. It is a good idea to knock the chunks off around the ears so you don't get a tainted, stinky area on the pelt, but that's about it. I'd also recommend using an electric stapler to put them on the board, unless you only plan to finish three or four a day... grin

Absolutely true. I have fleshed my share of beaver and honestly, unless there are chunks of meat on the face, I don't even consider fleshing it. Waste of time in my opinion, and the time I would have spent fleshing faces adds up to another 3-4 whole beaver fleshed by the end of the day the way I see it.



Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2921982
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Does anyone use the wire hoops for stretching? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2922036
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Wire hoops works good if you dont want to haul heavy plywood around. Ive used hoops when i run a spring long line away from home. Being that air reaches both sides they dry faster providing it isnt humid. Blanket bvr will buckle on a hoop but you can put something heavy on hoop wire.. Also you will need to use wire or special clamp to give bvr a oval shape as wanted by buyers.

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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2922045
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This is a great post on beaver put up.
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2843384/1.html

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Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2924277
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I use calf castration bands to close the front legs and three nails to close the back legs. Here are a few from this spring.


Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: newhouse114] #2924366
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Originally Posted By: newhouse114
First, I clean skin. After putting about 16 nails in the skin to keep it snug, I literally shave the entire skin with a VERY sharp knife. After shaving I go over it with a paintscraper to get as much moisture/grease out of the skin as possible. I dry in a 8x6x4 enclosure with two fans and 500 watts of IR lighting as a heat source. The relative humidity of coastal Oregon in the winter runs about 90% so the fans and heat are an absolute nessecity. It sounds like a lot of extra work but I still finish beaver start of skinning to last nail in less than 45 minutes, usually closer to half an hour. I taught beaverpeeler this method about 35 years ago and he does a comparable job. As his catch went up into the hundreds, I did notice a slight tendancy on his part to "get a little lazy" on the put up!! LOL


grin

Well your method works very well, and now hundreds of us BP wannabees are copying it. wink


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and LOL at the seal! XD grin

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: Flatiron] #2924407
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what are the measurements when you are stretching them in a oval? what do you go off of?

Re: Examples of put up Beaver hides [Re: panax hunter] #2924466
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Originally Posted By: panax hunter
what are the measurements when you are stretching them in a oval? what do you go off of?


NAFA has templates available that can be used to draw the pattern on the board. You can get them by contacting NAFA or one of there shipping agents. I am guessing that FHA probably also has a template as well.

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