Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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04/28/12 07:54 PM
04/28/12 07:54 PM
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trapperpaw
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The fact that they never moved much show the value of a neck catch and the 5x5 and 120 can be set to get that most of the time. I only do use coni's with the customers approval also and get them out asap with the customer calling or getting there daybreak or even at night. One other thing is I try to take advantage of natural cover or making some by attaching the coni with a cable so that he hits the ground and hopfully behind something. It seems that people walking or looking out their windows don't see them as often on the ground. Good pictures and I'm proud that you are smart enough to post them. I can't!
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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04/28/12 10:15 PM
04/28/12 10:15 PM
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Paul Winkelmann
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I know there are probably a bunch of visitors to this site and it must be really hard for them to believe that those traps around those raccoons necks are more humane than the live traps. But they are!
Last edited by Paul Winkelmann; 04/29/12 11:56 AM.
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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04/29/12 06:10 AM
04/29/12 06:10 AM
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Posts: 44 Dayton, OH
trapper4hire
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I know there are probably a bunch of visitors to this site and it must be really hard for them to believe that those traps around those raccoons necks are more humane than the live traps. Thats a good point Paul. But honestly I dont care what they think. None of the methods shown in those pics are illegal in ohio, and none of them violate T-Man rules. Here in Ohio ALL of the racconns we nuisances trappers remove from private property legally MUST be euthanized, There is no relocation here. So it comes back to how you define humane? Is it more humane to confine an animal in a cage, then let it sit in the back of a truck being incredibly stressed until it meets its inevitable demise? Or is it more humane for the trap to quickly provide the end, with the animal not needing to spend the day in a cage prolonging its demise. I didnt start this thread to begin an ethics debate about conis. Get on the trap talk forum and you can find enough pics of animals in conis to fill an album. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just showing how I use a tool that is legal in my state. Furthermore I started this thread in response to YOUR thread where you specifically asked what conis other trappers use for cage shy coon. Now you question the methods you originally inquired about? Interesting......
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: trapper4hire]
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04/29/12 06:46 AM
04/29/12 06:46 AM
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Jim Comstock
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Looks like it works! Wow. In anything I do, first consideration laws, can be released or not, how effective it is of course, who and where the work is being done, and perception if there might be outsiders in the mix. Gotta love a coni. Had one day 35 years ago at the end of the day looking at the catch of the day, one red fox, a buck, mink, several coon, an xl beaver beaver, an otter, a few rats, all caught in one trap, a 220 conibear!
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: Jim Comstock]
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04/29/12 10:40 AM
04/29/12 10:40 AM
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trapperpaw
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Trapper4hire good points well writtten and made. Jim I agree that the 220 is a great trap but I think the Comstock is a move forward as is the 5x5 and the use of the 120 for nuisance purposes. The increased neck catches and many non targets have a hard time getting in a fatal position causing a pr nightmare and the take away of a humane useful tool.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: 5X5 Conibear Catches (Pics)
[Re: Peskycritter]
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04/29/12 11:51 AM
04/29/12 11:51 AM
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trapperpaw
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I use my wooden cubby's the same way I screwed some 1/4 by 1/4 ratwire wings on it to mount it. I also use it as a chimney trap and flush mount it to buidings with two rebar stakes driven thru it to prevent anything outside the buiding getting in. Some of them I modified to make them two way and some a trap on both ends. As far as selling it its to easy to copy and trappers by nature copy and make anything they can. If you could add some moving parts maybe then you could sell it because we couldn't copy it. It is a dang good idea and I don't have any green wire so I'm going to have to call mine something else.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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