Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 04:05 PM
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They are going to climb back in...
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 04:29 PM
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The mesh is 1/2 X 1/2 ,16 gauge. Ive never used a bat excluder with a flapper, always horizontal tubes, drop valves like this one, and I use 1/4 netting ocaisionally. Ive only used this system about 50 times in the last 2 years, havent had any bats figure it out yet. Ive watched them work on it before, they all concentrate on fighting to get through up at the funnel end, they dont travel that far AWAY FROM their "door" to figure it out. They are going to climb back in... Apparently your bats are smarter than ours..... but our football players are smarter than yours.LOL
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work! Very nice design, but some bats ( Indiana Browns ) are able to get through 1 x 1 " wire. I have had bats go through 1x 1, so I switched to a smaller mesh. I always use 1/4" x 1/4 " wire now or netting that is 1/4 x 1/4 ".
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 04:39 PM
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What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work! Very nice design, but some bats may be able to get through 1 x 1 " wire. I have had bats go through 1x 1, so I switched to a smaller mesh. I always use 1/4" x 1/4 " wire now or netting that is 1/4 x 1/4 ". the meash is 1/2 by 1/2, you can't manually force a bat through it so I'm confident they dont get through on their own efforts. 1/4 by 1/4 netting is good also, switched to this because its easily reusable.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 04:57 PM
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They are going to climb back in... I was thinking the same thing looks like they still have both total ingress and egress. Beautiful craftsmanship looks like 1/2 " wire fabric mesh and that you put a lot of time into it; there are easier and simpler methods that are less labor intensive ie: Fluorescent Tube Protector or caulk tubes and duct tape.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 10:36 PM
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I never understood the reason for the plastic or mesh over a slick tube that was going straight down, seems like you could get a bat caught in it pretty easy.
Barehunter , whats up with the wooden ladder ??
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 10:42 PM
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I think they dont get back in because they are stupid. They follow air current and will work around the top of the funnel and not crawl down to the actual entry to the tube. If you wrap it creating the air current at the end of the funnel they will crawl back up the wire funnel. I have never used a wire one like that but I believe it will work fine. I usually make vents from pvc but don't put the horizontal crawl like Barehunter. I think the long crawl complicates the exit but I am sure it works. I am enterested in that wood ladder with wheels. Is that a home made chicken ladder device? I like the professional look of the bat tubes but can't make myself pay for just the look when other things works as well.I use a lot of caulk tubes like Robb showed. I have professionaled them up by wrapping them with aluminum metal tape then making several cuts in the attachment end and bending them out for screwing, foaming or taping to the building. I'm like the bat not smart enough to post pictures so you will have to visualize to wrapped tube. It looks good and is pliable for all kinds of mounting situations and cheap enough for one time use if you need to cut to fit and throw away. To the original post good work and I see that as a very workable mountable crafted tool.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 11:03 PM
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Good funnel design. Crawl backs may be possible with certain devices with alot of climb / attachment potential.Those bats will be all over that device when returning to the roost site. A good education on bat return behavior is learned when watching bat responses to exclusion devices in the early morning hours.They will show you the good and bad of any device. Couldnt agree more Bob ALOT can be learned by watching your own work in action. I did watches the first 5 times I used this system. No bats came more than a couple of inches away from the facia. The bats 'KNOW" where the entry point is they've used it for years, so why would they crawl AWAY from their "DOOR"? They Dont. I do like your idea of focusing air flow with luan, I think on larger gable vents I will try that in the future, with my wire horizontal tube. I dont claim to be an expert in anything, bat work included, but I am not a rookie and I would never post a pictorial of an unproven technique.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/19/12 11:19 PM
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I am going to stick with Chris's original design. I think covering the mesh will cause the bats to find the end of the tube and they will climb the wire. It has to be slick if you are going to put the air current at end of the tube. I think what makes it work is the air current is focused at the original exit point causing the bats to work that area. The same if you use netting they work the exit point not crawlng down the net then up the net to the entry. I agree with Bob on most points and he makes great lure but I think trapper4hire is right this time. If you are going to use the wire mesh. Bob is right if you have a slick tube exit.
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Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/20/12 11:11 AM
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Thanks for popping in Bobby J~~~~!
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/20/12 03:07 PM
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There are interesting techniques. I bet a lot has to do with the different colony sizes/species that you encounter in your area.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/21/12 08:38 PM
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Firedawg the shaft only had a few in it and they did not want to pay for the clean up. I bet you do recognize the area its in your back yard Athens. We do a lot of bat work in Athens, doing some this week. The only work I do in your area is bat. yeah, there seems to be a decent ammount of bat work down here. I actually bid on a job the other day right down the road from the building in your post. THat building used to be the old farmers hardware building, and we had a feed mill right across the railroad tracks from it. It got bough out during the real estate boom and a big condo building was built on the lot. If you ever need any help down this way or need me to check on anything for you just let me know.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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05/23/12 12:02 AM
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I never understood the reason for the plastic or mesh over a slick tube that was going straight down, seems like you could get a bat caught in it pretty easy.
Barehunter , whats up with the wooden ladder ?? Looks like a well constructed chicken ladder.
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Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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06/07/12 08:44 AM
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I didn't know the bats needed a ladder; thought they could fly.LOL (That's a chicken ladder, Adam. Used for laying against steep roofs and is NOT free-standing. Works like a hook ladder. Great info., everybody.
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