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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388074
10/25/12 06:31 PM
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Dillingham is getting hosed too we are at $6.84 for gas and yet one of the villages further up river they are only paying $6.47. It doesn't make sense


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388140
10/25/12 06:59 PM
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I wonder if the villages are getting some sort of subsidy or if it is simply taxes.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388172
10/25/12 07:11 PM
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I've seen where if someplace got a load of fuel earlier, and that load didn't get used up the price will stay the same "low" price compared to a place that got a load more recently at a higher cost. Don't know if that's what happened to you guys Todd.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: Aknative] #3388215
10/25/12 07:29 PM
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Like AKnative said sometimes they order when its cheaper and get locked in at the cheaper rates like we did here..and sometimes the local corporations gouge their members and mark it up alot.

If is Crowly or another fuel company they gouge year round no matter the price at the time they order.

There is no subsidy.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388289
10/25/12 07:54 PM
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There was when i was living in MYU Jeff.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388329
10/25/12 08:07 PM
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Must of been the local Corp then. there is not any subsidy here or anywhere around here.
they can qualify for Energy assistance thats through AVCP if your low income.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: yukonjeff] #3388393
10/25/12 08:35 PM
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There is a jig that has two levers each with a rope and as you pull each one after the other it moves the wooden jig along under the ice. You need only cut two holes to set your net. I have only heard of them and never seen one, just passing along the info.

Here is a link to how it works:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=5639700


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388401
10/25/12 08:38 PM
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Yep there's nothing like the rugged individualism of the mighty Alaskan bushman. crazy


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: yukonjeff] #3388637
10/25/12 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: yukonjeff
.and sometimes the local corporations gouge their members and mark it up alot.
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When I used to do some of the fuel cost stuff, you would be amazed at the receipts I saw...
I was actually working with an attorney general on the gouging....

The cost vs the sales price was astonishing in some places.... I am talking 100% markup.. Lots of 50% markups too...
It wasn't always just to the end user, but say to the electric company they might operate or someone else may....
So not only does a resident of the village pay more more fuel than they should, they have to pay more for their electric as well, and everything that had a fuel component....

It was completely absurd, and the AG was getting invoices, and doing a good bit of research into it. I don't recall anything ever happening, I would bet that the village corporations might have squashed it....


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388694
10/25/12 11:09 PM
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You are right about that I see the corp buy bulk fuel for $4.50 a gl and resell it for $7.50 and then tax on top of that.

part of the reason is trying to run a Corp office, with a bookeeper insurance and manager plus 3 guys working at the gas station so its hard to split the pie withhout big markup.

but at least it creating some employment for the village... the big fuel companies that come in and sell fuel sell it for even more like the Fuel co in Bethel or Saint Marys...seams greed knows no bounds.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388750
10/25/12 11:58 PM
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We have something here call competition. You can haul your own. You can have it brought in by several different river boat operations. You can have it brought in by several different Snowmachine freighting operations. Or finally you can contact several different air taxi operations. Every time the price starts getting too high another player comes along and lowballs the competition. Ain't the free market grand. smile


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388756
10/26/12 12:02 AM
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Lucky you...we dont have competition here...we get screwed upriver, down river,.. by the barge companies or by the airlines...take your pic.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388792
10/26/12 01:01 AM
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Maybe all that free money floating around stifles the free market. If the price was too high you would do without or find another alternative. I think you may be seeing the same problem you have with the AC store. Maybe Hup can explain it. He is the money guy. I am just a hobby economist. smile

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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388802
10/26/12 01:55 AM
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What about all the "free money" floating around LA, New York, Chicago? why is their free market not stifled?

Do you think it might have something to do with being 450 miles away from the big cities?

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3388994
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Got mice in the crawl space! I doesn't look like they've done much damage yet. It doesn't look like a major infestation from the amount of poop, and I'm not hearing them moving around, but still looks like might be more than a few snap traps will handle. What's the best way to go about getting rid of them? Anybody have experience with poison in a crawl space under the house?


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: yukonjeff] #3389064
10/26/12 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: yukonjeff
What about all the "free money" floating around LA, New York, Chicago? why is their free market not stifled?

Do you think it might have something to do with being 450 miles away from the big cities?


Then I guess you are not getting hosed. Your just whining. smile

BTW LA, NewYork, and Chicago are all expensive places to live and they are 0 miles from the big cities. confused


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3389155
10/26/12 10:13 AM
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No whining here just pointing out the facts of living far away from the big cities.and I am pretty tickled our fuel prices went down to $6.20 gl....besides we cant all be a big money guide like you. smile

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3389169
10/26/12 10:23 AM
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user conflictville, Alaska 99X...
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AKNative, my guess is that they are voles rather than mice. Try Decon if you dont have worries about pets getting into it.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: yukonjeff] #3389173
10/26/12 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: yukonjeff
..besides we cant all be a big money guide like you. smile


Why not? confused


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6 [Re: white17] #3389186
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