Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
[Re: white17]
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Actually Jeff, for the number of people that live in our area, our moose are doing pretty darn good. We started with 77 moose in a stretch of river that went 200 miles. After 5 years of no hunting, we had 1000 moose.
I'd love to see our area closed for 2 more years and triple the population.
How can the corp through someone off of a lake? It had to be the feds who did it.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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I think what will be the saddest thing in the Lower Yukon is went the winter grounds are so over grazed that the moose die off in huge numbers. The lower yukon is kind of unique. Ocean to the west. Tundra to the North and South. When you have moose laying on the beach in Hooper Bay you have to wonder.
They are moving back up river now and were seeing a big population buildup coming up river. I don't know enough about the biology that surrounds moose winter grounds but I would be willing to bet that at some point were going to see a detrimental affect. They are not allowing such liberal seasons for nothing and nothing they are doing is holding down the numbers. Guiding will never be looked at favorably on by locals on the Lower Yukon. But there is certainly room for it at this point in time. And although people might find some competition I personally guess it would benefit the lower river moose population in the long run. I've seen three moose this fall, you guys sure know how to hurt a guy. Darn Highway!
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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I only suggested that there are opportunities for local residents to make some money guiding for an abundant local game population. Not only do you get the meat, you get money.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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next thing ya know, those Yukon guys and kuskokwim guys are going to be wanting their fish populations to double..
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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About Us Your skipper and guide Jeff Peterson is a US Coast Guard licensed and insured captain, licensed big game transporter, licensed fishing guide, registered migratory bird guide with over twenty 20 years of professional service in the industry. He was born and raised on Kodiak Island in the village of Old Harbor. Growing up on his father's fishing boat and owning his first boat at the age of 13 makes him one of the most experienced charter skippers on the island. A former US Marine, Jeff understands the importance of being on time and providing you with a top notch service.. He resides on the island and works on the waters year-round, giving you unequal fishing results.
I was in the National Guard with Mr. Peterson on Kodiak back in the early 90's. At the time from my memory he was running a small store and video rental business in Old Harbor. I remember him telling me how all his neighbors hated him. Apparently, he didn't let that stop his ambition.
I call him Mister cause he earned it.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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Those guys up in St. Mike and Unalakleet have it figured out. They (native and non native) guide the hunters that want one thing, antlers and hides. They get paid to do what they love, make money at it, and get to keep the meat on top of it. They can have their cake and eat it too. Seems like a win/win to me.
Jeff, this is one time when the Feds and the State agree on something. We all know this is RARE. Call them yourself, but, the prediction is....the moose will eat themselves out of house and home.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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The Board of Game is lobbied by everybody. I wrote a proposal to open the unit to non-resident hunting as is allowed for by regulation when the surplus bull population is above 240 bulls. It was at least at 500 to 600. It made so much sense to open it, they did it despite all the political heat they took and all the opposition. Jeff I did not go into lobby for it. I have people for that. Guess what the local Advisory Committee supported it ( No I was not there) and the Mat-Su Advisory Committee opposed it.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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Kusko :
The Corp. enforces no trespassing on Corp. land and allotments - which is their right. But sometimes locals get vocal with those they consider outsiders. The key is to have accurate maps depicting land status, which includes BLM lands. Other important criteria are islands, navigable waters, etc. The Corps all have detailed maps, but are sometimes reluctant to give them out. In the past, there was a sign at the entrance to Layman lake. It said private property - keep out. This sign was not accurate ie: the waters are legal to travel and not all the land around the lake is private. So you need to know your land status.
YJ and I both know a longtime village resident who has guided for years. He tried to involve locals and to help them become guides. To many , he is a pariah. None of us want to give up our piece of heaven. But as long as guides are operating on State and Federal land and moose pops are healthy, the State and Feds can't legally stop them. Just ask the refuge manager regarding that one.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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Two things Jeff: if closing a moose season fixed your problem then your predator problem was humans. Our predator problem is not humans. Second: the nutritional health of your moose can be measured, so if you don't want to argue with the biologist about it have them measure the health. Refer GMU20A. Personally, I would never allow them to have a cow hunt here unless they could prove the moose were suffering from nutritional stress. I try to make all my decisions, based on what is best for the moose, not me. I don't guide moose hunters and have no desire to.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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U can't shoot antlered bulls after oct 1 st though right Jeff?
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #6
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[quote=Kusko]Actually Jeff, for the number of people that live in our area, our moose are doing pretty darn good. We started with 77 moose in a stretch of river that went 200 miles. After 5 years of no hunting, we had 1000 moose.
I'm pretty sure this is impossible without a lot of dispersal into the area from somewhere else. That would be close to a 70% growth rate per year. The largest growth rate measured in Alaska (THAT I'M AWARE OF) was on the predator free and relatively snow free area of Kalgan Island. It was around 33%.
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