You will when 275,000 starving people start to expand their range in search of food

Hopefully, by then we will have plenty of moose to share with them. Hard to believe I'm the greedy one with such low morals and ethics.

You guys had better start stocking up on .223 ammo and razor wire.

I hit the lower Yukon. Kotlik in the fall of 1984. I went along with a local guy on his moose hunt. The last year it was open. The next year I believe was the moratorium. There were moose in the lower stretches of the river. Few and far between.
I believe the moratorium contributed to the success. Granted people still ate wild game.
But I firmly believe that it was the another over riding factor that led to a lot of the success. In the early 90's for some time the caribou population was migrating all the way to Kotlik at times. People from as far as Hooper Bay were traveling to the Lower Yukon and to St Michaels for their meat. Lots of it. easy to get meat. It lasted enough years to allow the moose some reprieve and to gain a critical mass. Which now can not be held back.
I hit Mt Village in 1995 and was one of very few people that consistently only hunted below Mt Village only. Moose were very spread out but there. I then moved to PItkas Point for 3 years and Back to Mt Village.

Most everyone was going upriver to hunt still at that time. The population increased on the lower river but from the down river end backwards. 30 mile was a lot better hunting than Clearwater area. Which if they were building from upriver we would have seen the opposite trend in population increases.

There were no appreciable changes from Mt to Pilot that would indicate movement to the lower stretches. I hunted and trapped the areas and my opinion is that they built from the lower river back. And are doing it strongly now. Heck there are moose all along the drainages along the airport from Mt to St Marys now. Clearwater etc. Moose are by the airports in Mt Village. Moose sightings have steadily increased from down to upriver in areas we rarely saw moose.
I believe those moose are coming up not down.
And it is glory days. But still be willing to bet that there will be areas in the lower river that will reach or are over capacity right now.
Wolf heyday when they show up.

Actually they are there now. And guess there numbers will grow like crazy in the next 5 years. Jeff you need to start pushing the wolf snares!!

What you say Karnak? I see in the future a massive wolf build up and the moose population reduced by two thirds in a ten year period. I visualize Jeff at the Board of Game. Things are getting blurry. I can't believe what I am hearing. It is Jeff asking the Board of Game to send in the sky-hos to kill the wolves wiping out his moose.

The moose are not migrating up from down river...they are just still migrating down river from upriver following the river and hit the ocean and have to stop,I was here the whole time and saw it all and was not stuck indoors teaching I was trapping,hunting and fishing for a living.

we cant set wolf snares because of the moose..not many wolves to catch anyway the snowmachiners catch the few that show up in short order.

wont happen the boys have open country and fast snowmachines...so far held the populations down to almost none.
I am the only sealer in the area and use about 5 wolf tags a year some years less.

Right ha ha. I led pretty sheltered life when I lived out there full time.
Kind of like Fish and Kusko. We just have no idea what is going on outside those school walls. Cause we don't live it.
Whatever. Seems their can't be any discussion without insults here by some.

No insults intended just stating the facts....but since you brought it up...you were/are living in teacher housing provided a maintance crew who even pumpes your stove oil and hauls your trash with two meals a daya also provided.

While I was living in a one room log cabin with no running water and wood stove only.

again no offense intended the guides on here already dont like me

I just don't know why we waste all that money on radio collaring wildlife when we could just ask people who were there the whole time?

I worked with a university professor and some engineers on a research project which involved the metabolism of a single celled organism. I discovered they didn't know squat, I really didn't know squat and everybody else knew less than squat. Through education I came to understand exactly how complex the natural world around us really is and how limited our understanding really is.

To claim you have a complete understanding of moose population dynamics is completely preposterous...

This whole discussion reminds me of a Board of Game or A.C. meeting. It's all about sorting out the B.S.

I tell you what.. since you guys know whats best for your populations in your area...you do it with our blessing...just dont tell us what we need to do when you dont live here.

GROUP HUG?????????????????????????


dirt.
i was not complaining these are merely facts i stated. i don't have time to get a pilots license or a plane or start a business. i have enough on my plate with a full time job, commercial fishing, trapping and doing other subsistence activities. caribou in this region are the main staple of everyones diet. come on up and get into a conversation about caribou. most of the conversation would center around where they are which way they are moving and most important are they fat? no talk about antlers would be heard or antler size or shovels and whatever somebody wants in a trophy. ask how many days a week a family eats caribou?

i always wondered if we got 2-300 locals and went to a transporters homebase area or a guides area and shot as many moose and caribou we could only for antlers what would happen? wouldn't you think the locals would be in an uproar? where is skwentna anyways? you have a good place to camp for 2-300 hunters and enough moose and caribou to feed all the locals when we are done?

Jeff, I don't know of any guides on here....well, there is Pete, but he's old and crust and only takes hot blonde chicks as clients....

I am not a trophy hunter and most of the locals are not interested in antlers. I don't particularly understand trophy hunting. That does not stop me from making part of my living from it. We have no caribou, but plenty of bear and a few moose. If you can find the moose we got enough for about 300 successful hunters. However, no cow shooting. People who don't live here have always made the rules we sometimes abide by.

A disagreement and you think people don't like you? What are we 4 years old? Disagreements are part of life, if everyone agreed life would be pretty boring wouldn't it.

I have to say I am sorry to let this subject get away..its a pretty heavy topic... the moral of the stoy is some areas welcome guiding and some dont they should take a vote near the village that will be effcted or better yet have the guides stay away from traditional hunting grounds period..out of sight out of mind..dont force it on anyone.

And I in no way wanted to dis any of the good teachers on here I know its a tough job in the villages and they have every right to share in every thing they want..I have a daughter in school myself and support them every chance I get.

Since we are having a group hug and voting on stuff, I vote we rename "sky-hos" "sky maggots". I kind a like hos and hate to see them get a bad name.